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Originally Posted by obzidian

Are you morons serious?

Then explain to everyone in the class how the car consistently dyno's well over 630 to 650 to wheels STOCK and still achieve through a standard tranmission or a "regular" trans with a torque converter?

The only way is if dodge somehow produced a miracle and their drivetrain only eats up 10%.

Sae dont mean a damn thing guy. Nissan with their gtr, ford with the 2013 shelby, bmw with the m4, etc. Etc
Etc... all engines are underrated from factory and yet they all have a sae rating.

I guess they also have magical drivetrains as well.

Notice anything in common with each of your examples? All FI. Doesn't that seem like a strange coincidence? Doesn't seem highly likely that chassis dynos do not recreate the same environment used in standalone engine testing? FI is susceptible to atmospheric conditions much more so than an NA motor. Have you ever seen a chassis dyno with a controlled atmosphere, we aren't talking someone's A/C in their shop either. Ever seen quicker ETs by ice packing an intake or intercooler? Don't you think SAE tests under probably less than ideal conditions to simulate the average environment a engine will operate in?

If it is more plausible to you that SAE testing is a joke, and Bubba's dyno/paint shop/bait and tackle is a more true indicator of these car's output...then by all means believe it. Go ahead and believe the moon landings were faked, JFK was shot by a gunman on the grassy knoll, and Diet Coke tastes just like regular Coke. Those ideas certainly appeal to people who don't understand scientific analysis.

BTW, it's 1% of SAE rating in their tests under their specified conditions, not on Bubba's dyno....keep that in mind.