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Originally Posted by Doc
? I didn't object to your post, I just replied to it.
The motive? Funding? Where do you get the "thousands of scientists" from?
So they say, because they've been studying the earth for millions of years, right?
You do know what comes up out of volcanoes, right? The north and south poles don't receive as much direct radiant energy, plus the fact that the earth's core is probably not a perfect sphere since it's molten and the earth is spinning. It's probably a bit wider than it is tall, just like the earth is. The earth isn't a perfect sphere either. The simple tilt of our earth as it spins can take us from summer to winter; from 100 degree + to below zero temps. Has nothing to do with us. There's also the fact that our earth doesn't rotate around the sun in a perfect circle, it's more of an oval so we have times when we're a bit closer, and a bit farther from the sun. All of this adds up to change; constant change. None of it has anything to do with us whatsoever.
That's a very misleading line: "...the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists - 97 percent..." How many "actively publishing CLIMATE scientists are there? That's not all scientists, just a small group of a specific type, and only those who "actively publish", which is what? Nine out of ten? IF they could say a thousand leading scientists, they would. The way that's worded makes it look like the number is actually not very big, so they need to craft it in such a way as to make it appear overwhelming.
The United Nations is worthless as an authority of any kind about anything. Like NASA, they too need funding; desperately, and of course the deep pocket they all want to reach into is the United States. They want to buy our politicians so they can get legislation passed to force the transfer of great amounts of our wealth into their hands. This is having a direct impact on our automotive industry.
There's an old story about the Emperor's New Clothes that can give you a good insight into how things operate in these kinds of circles.
There's also this:
https://freebeacon.com/issues/alarmi...ed-math-error/
They always focus on CO2 as though that's the be-all end-all. I didn't specifically say CO2, I said "gases". Volcanic eruptions are the result of pressure from the core, which also causes seismic activity. We live on a floating crust wrapped around a raging molten core, and the majority of our crust is covered in water which is both a circulating cooling agent and functions like a giant heat sink. Volcanoes are a pressure release system, just like earthquakes are. The pressure is coming from the core. As they themselves acknowledged, a couple of volcanic eruptions pushed so much particulate into the atmosphere, that it caused cooling because it was blocking sunlight. Ever been in an eclipse? Isn't it amazing how you can feel the temperature drop as the moon blocks the sun? They speak of volcanic eruptions as though they're things that just happen. Volcanic eruptions, especially severe ones are signs of heat and pressure build-ups taking place in the core. We have absolutely ZERO effect on the earth's core.
Here's another link that discusses ocean warming:
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/n...ural-disasters
So that's it then, isn't it. The same groups who've been warning us for decades that we only have a few years to act or it's all over, (even though none of their predictions have even come close to being true) are all agreeing, so that must make it true! NOW we should let them take all our money!
Take note of what they ALWAYS want; money. Carbon tax, green tax, billions for research; Al Gore actually asked for 40 trillion!
Here's a few for you:
https://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/s...-for-23-years/
http://www.remss.com/blog/faq-about-v40-tlt-update/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/...y-henry-payne/
https://realclimatescience.com/2017/...arctic-summer/
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/n...ence-concludes
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/n...ing-seem-worse
There are a lot of things you can read, but don't believe that the entire scientific community is in agreement on this; they aren't. When you see words like "everybody agrees", or things like that, ask the question: "Everybody who?" Everybody in the office of the article writer? Everybody in the breakroom? Everybody at the conference specifically set up for those who agree with a certain agenda? There are a lot of carefully worded statements that the authors probably know will easily be misread and/or misunderstood, which is why they're worded that way.
Remember: if you're looking for motive, follow the money. Don't look at what they say, look behind the curtain at what they do. |
Which scientific organization that concurs with your opinion studied the climate a million years ago? right...nobody did, nobody studied astronomy a million years ago either.
The importance of NASA's clarification of "actively publishing" is that all those publications are peer reviewed.
I ask readers here not to take my word and go look for themselves. They have a choice, they can read, among many others, the climate website at NASA, (that liberal, elitist organization?), there are several tabs for Evidence, Causes, Effects, Scientific Consensus, Vital Signs, and Questions (FAQ) all with supported, peer reviewed sources...
or they can believe posters here at Camaro6.
If NASA and the 97% of the scientific community who actually study the Earth's climate (as opposed to other scientists that don't, and wouldn't be peer reviewing papers outside of their field) are wrong, then fantastic, we worried for nothing, and perhaps we end up with more solar panels, electric cars and wind mills. I really do hope those scientists and those who are in agreement with them, are worried for nothing, this is the best possible scenario. I hope they are wrong, I hope the at best, 3% of climate scientists are right that we have nothing to worry about, and the 97% are flat out crazy liberals only looking for the next funding grant.
If the 97% are right, then it is possible that our future generations will have to find another planet to live on. I really hope that my son and his children and on and on aren't faced with that reality.
You can read, or not, about the consensus on consensus here, and believe them or not, we are free to make our own choices.
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10...26/11/4/048002
Kind Regards to everyone here at Camaro6.