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Kobra_Klutch · 05-01-2013, 05:41 AM

Hello to all,

For starters "I HAVE NEVER OWNED A CAMARO"!

This is my first post on this site and I've been a lurker since GOD knows when (I visit this site almost daily and I've read a lot of your posts---very candid feedback--much appreciated). I have followed the current Camaro's development since the first prototype hit the scene. I think the Camaro, from 2010-2013, looks awesome but I'm more biased to the SS and ZL1 versions than the V-6's front ends.

I like the refresh (front and rear ends) and here's why. When I compare the current model's front end, now it (not in the past) looks more like a wide-eyed owl and the 2014 looks more like an American Bald Eagle. Both are capable birds of prey and deserve the utmost respect; but the 2014 just got meaner in the front, i.e. the Z/28 (it blew the socks off most of us).

I love the rear end tail lights on the 2010-2013 models, but I also love the tail lights of the 2014. For all intensive purposes; the current iteration brought us all in and I would say primarily (muscle car fans) most of which are Americans, however, we can't forget about the global community who also love our muscle cars as well. This new rear end (to me) brings in our global community more than the current version. Here's why. When you look at the diffusers on foreign cars they look more inline with the new diffuser. Personally, I feel Chevy fabricated a diffuser when they put the dual exhausts option on the current model. This newer rear diffuser flows with the body/design of the car (it is quite comparable to the C7 in design). Is it a little too high in the rear and showing too much under the skirt (opinions will vary)? I think it's showy but if you look at some of the really exotic sports cars you can see more than that and they're very appealing and it makes the cars look meaner. I like the new tail lamps because they keep the car's design looking fresh instead of out-dated/long in the tooth (thanks again Z/28). I like how they've incorporated the brake/rear fog light on the trunk lid (just underneath the spoiler). When you live in a foreign country some of their laws stipulate that you have the ability to have a steady fog light in the rear (current owners have to fabricate something to make this happen). The redesign puts the light at eye level for other drivers to see and gauge distance better. I am wary of the wear of the rear diffuser (discoloration) over time but I'm sure many people will come up with many creative ways to keep them looking good.

Interior: I like the addition of the Recaro seat option to go along with the nice steering wheels in the 1LE and ZL1. I haven't been a big fan of the overall interior's appearance and that's the main reason why I'm not driving one currently. I understand that there are many people who could care less about what a car's interior looks like when the outside looks good and it goes fast. I get it...however, for my $35K-$50K it needs to look like I spent that much; inside and out (Great job Chevy on improving the new Corvette)--Global marketing/thinking.

The areas of the interior I don't enjoy are the radio/infotainment/AC and the dashboard trim pieces (no disrespect to the designers--I just don't like it). I know if one stitch came out of wack on the dashboard trim I'd want to remove the entire dash. I also don't like the huge plastic piece on the door's interior.

I may have to wait until the next Gen to get the interior I want but who knows what the outside will look like at that point. So I have some deciding to do.

I plan on checking out the 2014 1LE when it hits the showroom floors and from there I'm sure I'll be able to make up my mind on whether I really want a Camaro for myself (regardless of my personal opinions on this and that).

Congratulations to all of you who own a Camaro and thanks GM/Chevrolet for building this for us.

I'm hoping I fall in love with it in person because if I do make mine in AGM w/Recaros.

Shout outs to the guy who posted the intial pics and the guy who posted the pics of the 2013/2014 1LEs side-by-side.

PS: My global views stem from my 10 years of active duty service spent outside of the USA; protecting our interests. Thanks to all those who've Served, are Serving, and will Serve one day.

V/r
Kobra_Klutch

05-01-2013, 05:41 AM	#217
Kobra_Klutch Drives: Mountain Bike Join Date: May 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 179	New member's opinions. Hello to all, For starters "I HAVE NEVER OWNED A CAMARO"! This is my first post on this site and I've been a lurker since GOD knows when (I visit this site almost daily and I've read a lot of your posts---very candid feedback--much appreciated). I have followed the current Camaro's development since the first prototype hit the scene. I think the Camaro, from 2010-2013, looks awesome but I'm more biased to the SS and ZL1 versions than the V-6's front ends. I like the refresh (front and rear ends) and here's why. When I compare the current model's front end, now it (not in the past) looks more like a wide-eyed owl and the 2014 looks more like an American Bald Eagle. Both are capable birds of prey and deserve the utmost respect; but the 2014 just got meaner in the front, i.e. the Z/28 (it blew the socks off most of us). I love the rear end tail lights on the 2010-2013 models, but I also love the tail lights of the 2014. For all intensive purposes; the current iteration brought us all in and I would say primarily (muscle car fans) most of which are Americans, however, we can't forget about the global community who also love our muscle cars as well. This new rear end (to me) brings in our global community more than the current version. Here's why. When you look at the diffusers on foreign cars they look more inline with the new diffuser. Personally, I feel Chevy fabricated a diffuser when they put the dual exhausts option on the current model. This newer rear diffuser flows with the body/design of the car (it is quite comparable to the C7 in design). Is it a little too high in the rear and showing too much under the skirt (opinions will vary)? I think it's showy but if you look at some of the really exotic sports cars you can see more than that and they're very appealing and it makes the cars look meaner. I like the new tail lamps because they keep the car's design looking fresh instead of out-dated/long in the tooth (thanks again Z/28). I like how they've incorporated the brake/rear fog light on the trunk lid (just underneath the spoiler). When you live in a foreign country some of their laws stipulate that you have the ability to have a steady fog light in the rear (current owners have to fabricate something to make this happen). The redesign puts the light at eye level for other drivers to see and gauge distance better. I am wary of the wear of the rear diffuser (discoloration) over time but I'm sure many people will come up with many creative ways to keep them looking good. Interior: I like the addition of the Recaro seat option to go along with the nice steering wheels in the 1LE and ZL1. I haven't been a big fan of the overall interior's appearance and that's the main reason why I'm not driving one currently. I understand that there are many people who could care less about what a car's interior looks like when the outside looks good and it goes fast. I get it...however, for my $35K-$50K it needs to look like I spent that much; inside and out (Great job Chevy on improving the new Corvette)--Global marketing/thinking. The areas of the interior I don't enjoy are the radio/infotainment/AC and the dashboard trim pieces (no disrespect to the designers--I just don't like it). I know if one stitch came out of wack on the dashboard trim I'd want to remove the entire dash. I also don't like the huge plastic piece on the door's interior. I may have to wait until the next Gen to get the interior I want but who knows what the outside will look like at that point. So I have some deciding to do. I plan on checking out the 2014 1LE when it hits the showroom floors and from there I'm sure I'll be able to make up my mind on whether I really want a Camaro for myself (regardless of my personal opinions on this and that). Congratulations to all of you who own a Camaro and thanks GM/Chevrolet for building this for us. I'm hoping I fall in love with it in person because if I do make mine in AGM w/Recaros. Shout outs to the guy who posted the intial pics and the guy who posted the pics of the 2013/2014 1LEs side-by-side. PS: My global views stem from my 10 years of active duty service spent outside of the USA; protecting our interests. Thanks to all those who've Served, are Serving, and will Serve one day. V/r Kobra_Klutch