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jordan 572 · 10-02-2010, 06:28 PM

Is there a tsb on this? My car just got it today with 2100 miles on it. It smells so bad I want to puke when I get out. How long does it take to fix? The people that have had it fixed, did it fix the problem? What do they replace?

SC2150 · 10-02-2010, 08:48 PM

This happens from to much slippage during a launch causing hot spots & divots on the flywheel & pressure plate. When it gets damaged like this you can have the flywheel resurfaced and replace the clutch disc & pressure plate.

jordan 572 · 10-02-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

This happens from to much slippage during a launch causing hot spots & divots on the flywheel & pressure plate. When it gets damaged like this you can have the flywheel resurfaced and replace the clutch disc & pressure plate.

the clutch pedal pulses right before it is all the way out. My dad pulled it in when i was gone and iwent to rive it today and all this started. There is no wy this could be his fault is there?

SC2150 · 10-02-2010, 11:16 PM

Wouldn't think so. He would have had to really slip the clutch to get it that hot...hot enough that smoke would be rolling out and the smell is unmistakable..but it is possible to destroy an OEM clutch in short order. If your ever at the dragstrip and see someone rying to do a burnout & smokke is pouring out but the tires aren't spinning....that is a desroyed clutch. It may still engage and drive, but the damage has been done and it is on its way to failing.

jordan 572 · 10-03-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Wouldn't think so. He would have had to really slip the clutch to get it that hot...hot enough that smoke would be rolling out and the smell is unmistakable..but it is possible to destroy an OEM clutch in short order. If your ever at the dragstrip and see someone rying to do a burnout & smokke is pouring out but the tires aren't spinning....that is a desroyed clutch. It may still engage and drive, but the damage has been done and it is on its way to failing.

yea no one has ever burned the clutch so bad wee have seen smoke It is just weird that the pedel pulses and the car shakes it almost feels like it is going to stall. And the smell is just great.

SC2150 · 10-03-2010, 10:52 AM

I would get it into the dealer than. Sounds like a pressure plate defect then.

jordan 572 · 10-03-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

I would get it into the dealer than. Sounds like a pressure plate defect then.

How would this have started out of no where? It has been perfect?

SC2150 · 10-03-2010, 11:42 AM

There are 2 types of pressure plates, one with traditional looking springs, and one with a diaphram. If the diaphram style cracks, it will act like your describing & will not have the clamping force it is designed for as well as not totally disengaging. Not your fault IMHO, just a defect. But you won't know until it is taken out & inspected.

jordan 572 · 10-03-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

There are 2 types of pressure plates, one with traditional looking springs, and one with a diaphram. If the diaphram style cracks, it will act like your describing & will not have the clamping force it is designed for as well as not totally disengaging. Not your fault IMHO, just a defect. But you won't know until it is taken out & inspected.

when i speed shift I cant really feel it but if i take off slowly i get the vibration in the car and the pedel. I cant really pinpoint when it smells but i know that it smells when i take off slowly idk about when i take off fast as the smell is stuck in the car. I appreciate the help

3min3m2 · 10-03-2010, 06:08 PM

Let dealer check it out. There was a tsb out a while ago for pressure plate bolts backing out.

SC2150 · 10-03-2010, 08:58 PM

And that would explain the symptoms also.

jordan 572 · 10-04-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

And that would explain the symptoms also.

so loose bolts would also make sense? It is just weird that it goes great when you shift quick but on normal take off it shakes and smells

SC2150 · 10-04-2010, 07:34 PM

That would fit the loose bolts scenario even better. Loose bolts will allow the entire assy to move around when diengaged and really shake when taking off, but still act pretty normal when movong at speed where the spline is keeping things pretty centered.

3min3m2 has it correct I predict. Keep us posted as to what it turnes out to be.

10-02-2010, 06:28 PM	#1
jordan 572 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MN Posts: 1,720 View My Garage	LS3 M6 Clutch chatter Is there a tsb on this? My car just got it today with 2100 miles on it. It smells so bad I want to puke when I get out. How long does it take to fix? The people that have had it fixed, did it fix the problem? What do they replace?

10-03-2010, 06:08 PM	#10
3min3m2 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SIM L-99 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dunbar WV Posts: 385	Let dealer check it out. There was a tsb out a while ago for pressure plate bolts backing out. __________________ 3rd Time is the charm 2012 2SS/RS VR 6M. Borla S type, Volant CAI.

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10-02-2010, 08:48 PM	#2
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	This happens from to much slippage during a launch causing hot spots & divots on the flywheel & pressure plate. When it gets damaged like this you can have the flywheel resurfaced and replace the clutch disc & pressure plate.

10-02-2010, 11:16 PM	#4
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Wouldn't think so. He would have had to really slip the clutch to get it that hot...hot enough that smoke would be rolling out and the smell is unmistakable..but it is possible to destroy an OEM clutch in short order. If your ever at the dragstrip and see someone rying to do a burnout & smokke is pouring out but the tires aren't spinning....that is a desroyed clutch. It may still engage and drive, but the damage has been done and it is on its way to failing.

10-03-2010, 10:52 AM	#6
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	I would get it into the dealer than. Sounds like a pressure plate defect then.

10-03-2010, 11:42 AM	#8
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	There are 2 types of pressure plates, one with traditional looking springs, and one with a diaphram. If the diaphram style cracks, it will act like your describing & will not have the clamping force it is designed for as well as not totally disengaging. Not your fault IMHO, just a defect. But you won't know until it is taken out & inspected.

10-03-2010, 08:58 PM	#11
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	And that would explain the symptoms also.

10-04-2010, 07:34 PM	#13
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	That would fit the loose bolts scenario even better. Loose bolts will allow the entire assy to move around when diengaged and really shake when taking off, but still act pretty normal when movong at speed where the spline is keeping things pretty centered. 3min3m2 has it correct I predict. Keep us posted as to what it turnes out to be.