NA Engine with SC power!

[Rocklage]

Can it be done?

And specifically how?

I know Silver Bullet(Canaro 5 member) reached 500+rwhp before his Wet spray.

Can it be done for the same cost as a Super Charger?

I am curious, I like options, but my price range or ceiling I should say is the cost of a SC+install ($7k)

If I can achieve that same rwhp the NA route, what are the plus minuses of doing so?

Will it be able to maintain drive ability? It will be my DD.

I ask mainly because the reliability of a built engine is attractive.

Cheers,

Rock


edit: and yes I used the search function, not as much detail as I would like.

[Mindz]

Most likely, you'll need an aggressive cam which will take daily driveability out of the picture. With a blower, you can get CARB legal ones seeing that you're in CA and stay smog legal.

Your goal is a DD with over 500 rwhp, or 470 like some magnacharged camaros?

Do you want an automatic or manual?

[kidddogbites]

if you want 20 raise the power of your camaro and not use a super charger try 13:1 compression ratio cylinders but then you will have to get new piston rings, reinforced valces and valve springs beefed up crank bealt, and reinforced crank shaft and rods at the min. but then your gunna spend more than 7g's so i think that the SC is the beater choice.

[SK360]

Stroke the LS3, get a good set of heads and a cam and you will easily be over 500/500... we have a couple of 416ci LS3 based strokers in the Pittsburgh area putting down north of 520rwhp and 500rwtq.

[klatterblast]

ls7 with big cam and supporting mods

[moiy1983]

Originally Posted by Rocklage

Can it be done?

And specifically how?

I know Silver Bullet(Canaro 5 member) reached 500+rwhp before his Wet spray.

Can it be done for the same cost as a Super Charger?

I am curious, I like options, but my price range or ceiling I should say is the cost of a SC+install ($7k)

If I can achieve that same rwhp the NA route, what are the plus minuses of doing so?

Will it be able to maintain drive ability? It will be my DD.

I ask mainly because the reliability of a built engine is attractive.

Cheers,

Rock


edit: and yes I used the search function, not as much detail as I would like.

I did with a stroker kit. I made 510 with a small cam. It drives like stoke exept when you hit the go pedal!

[3min3m2]

NA is awesome, but generally more expensive for same power. And def not smog legal....

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Rocklage

Can it be done?

And specifically how?

I know Silver Bullet(Canaro 5 member) reached 500+rwhp before his Wet spray.

Can it be done for the same cost as a Super Charger?

I am curious, I like options, but my price range or ceiling I should say is the cost of a SC+install ($7k)

If I can achieve that same rwhp the NA route, what are the plus minuses of doing so?

Will it be able to maintain drive ability? It will be my DD.

I ask mainly because the reliability of a built engine is attractive.

Cheers,

Rock


edit: and yes I used the search function, not as much detail as I would like.

You not going to do it and Stay Smog legal or just with bolt ons like heads cam headers intake etc.

A larger or Stroker engine is necessary.

Weather it can be done within your budget of 7K or not depends heavily on if you do your own work or will pay for it.

The big issue is It will end right there with NO Room to grow unless you add Boost.

With Supercharger first you achieve your goals easily within your budget and have tons of room to grow, and in most case will pass smog check.

Take a look at our builds, We have Stock Long Blocks Running 10s and daily Driving Reliability.

Ted.

[Rocklage]

This is why I love Camaro5 thank you everyone for your input.

Mindz: its a ls3 shooting for 500rwhp, no Maggie, initially leaning toward a Whipple, before I thought I would investigate the NA route.

[SK360]

It can be done cheap.... a friend of mine put together an LS3 based 416ci stroker for right around 5k after machine work, including a nice set of used heads. You are already starting with the block so it could be cheaper.

[Mindz]

As most people have said, you can have get NA engines up over 500/500 with bolt ons, but will definitely not be smog legal and you'll be pretty much at the limit for the engine, so if you want to go higher ever, you'll need a new engine to start with, or you'll be replacing parts with a supercharger.

If you want to play with the possibility of staying smog legal, go Supercharger. Room to grow if you decide to, most are smog legal, or will pass a sniffer, and it's a one time thing. You don't have to worry about different companies/brands/pieces. As for reliability, I have no idea.

Keep in mind, I'm not an expert, and they could prove me wrong, but for a normal car enthusiast, that's my experience and what I personally have heard. =)

Good luck!

[LC]

I plan to get there on my M6 car... - hope to get there..

small bore LS7 top end with a huge ass cam... heads were milled to achieve a higher yet 92 compliant compression..

I just know bumper to bumper traffic WILL suck with such cam...

[Slowhawk]

With the stock ci you could make the peak hp but the benefit of most superchargers is the strong average power.Meaning,the supercharged car will probly be alot faster.

[Rocklage]

Thank you all again for all your help!

I'm going to go Whipple then, with a kooks headers and 3" borla touring cat back base, and a dyno tune from Greg at RPMM. Grounded to a Pfadt Stage 3 suspension.

I'll keep you all updated, and again thank you for being such a supportive community