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V8forlife · 11-05-2015, 11:20 PM

Hi all, so I'm thinking about going for a 2013-ish Camaro SS or Mustang GT. The only cars I've ever owned were Mustangs, and I'm on my fourth now. It's a 2003 Mach 1 (it's a 32 valve DOHC, not 16 valve SOHC like the GT) with a Procharger making 448 rwhp. Only 27k miles. I don't have to sell it or anything, it's running great but lately I've had thoughts about just getting something newer.

I LOVE my Mach 1, it's a beast but it's really at about it's safe limit without digging into the motor and it's just not worth it on a 12 year old car. Both the new 'stang and Camaro motors have so much more potential than the old 4.6. Even as it stands, pushing this much power through it makes me nervous every time I get on it. I've got an awesome tune, and it's probably going to last a long time but it's still hard not to worry about a rod ventilating my block.

So I guess the reason I'm here is to see if I can be swayed over to the DARK SIDE instead of getting another Mustang. Obviously you guys prefer Chevy. What is it about the 5th gen Camaro that makes you guys take it over the Mustang 5.0? As far as looks go, they're about a wash for me. I like 'em both.

Rangore · 11-05-2015, 11:46 PM

This discussion/debate has been going on since the cars came out. I don't know what magic statement would sway you. I can only say that is a looks thing for me. Mechanically they go back and forth for dominating performance...excluding tuned cars. However, those basically who spends more money IMO.

For me...it's the looks. Mustangs are good looking cars once you do some work to them IMO. Factory wise the Camaro is a better base to build from looks wise. I think the Camaro is a better looking car and have thought so since my first one back in 93.

Good luck and hope we see you join our ranks.

Moto-Mojo · 11-06-2015, 12:03 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure a "Chevy Man" or "Ford Man" can ever really be satisfied on the respective dark side. These kind of things are the stuff of legend, family feuds and ostracizing! Until the new Mustang came out, many Fords just looked over inflated. They really refined the new Mustang. Nice lines. So, for me it's look as well. But when it came to muscle car attraction, I have always been a GM man. I'm going to advise YOU to buy a newer Mustang.

crysalis_01 · 11-06-2015, 01:00 AM

OP, buy what you want. You can't go wrong with a modern pony car. They perform at a level that will satisfy regardless of which badge is in the grill.

My only advice is to test them yourself and don't worry about what other people or magazines have to say. You're the one who will be behind the wheel, so in the end it has to be your call.

Also, the 4.6 isn't so bad. I happen to love mine.

rontammy0 · 11-06-2015, 01:05 AM

This will go off the tracks anytime now haha. The mustangs a great car.....I just like my camaro more.

USAFS197 · 11-06-2015, 01:36 AM

I was in kind of a similar situation. I came from owning four Mustangs, most recently a '12 and was considering moving over to the dark side, also.

Ultimately, I entertained the idea for two reasons; I was tired of the straight line game and saw that the 5th gen, most notably the 1LE's and newer model Camaros had revised suspension packages that made them no joke in the turns - secondly, I wanted to see what all the hype was about after all these years, when it came to the fabled LS engine.

So, I test drove what eventually became my current vehicle. Much to my dismay, I couldn't track down a 1LE that wasn't already a 2SS and they were on production hold until the '15 models were being made so, I entertained this one because of its options. The power was woafully underwhelming. Period. I was expecting something completely different. But I understood that the car was stock and perhaps with a tune and a couple of goodies, it would wake the car up. Also, the 1LE suspension package could be had for as little as $1200 at the time so, it didn't seem so bad.

Long story short, I did a couple of mods and generally speaking, I'm content with the purchase but I am by no means whatsoever sold on this platform. Be that as it may, I'll likely keep it for a good long while for financial reasons and nickel and dime a few mods over the years until something else I can't resist comes along.

NYCamOwner · 11-06-2015, 06:27 AM

Don't let anyone "sway" you into anything. You know what you will like, and go with it. I never liked the Mustang, but around 2006 I went out to Vegas and rented a Mustang Convertible and loved it. I was never impressed with the interior before that, but they had just redesigned it. Since they have redesigned it again, I am back to not being impressed with the interior. That is my preference. I tend to put a lot of miles on a car, and liking the interior is very important to me.

atressler85 · 11-06-2015, 06:58 AM

Mustangs are a great car, no doubt about that, but I'm all for the Camaro. I test drove a few mustangs before I started looking at the Camaros, and I felt that the Camaro handled better. It could have been a biased opinion because I've always wanted a Camaro mainly because I think they look so awesome.

Personally, every time I see a Camaro, it turns my head. When a mustang drives by, I barely notice. Clearly it's a looks thing for me, that's why I chose the Camaro.

Jasper · 11-06-2015, 07:13 AM

Hi,
I got my SS 1yr ago and was totally open to a Mustang or Camaro. I test drove both and found that as a previous poster said, the Camaro had more in it and better driving feel than the Stang. The interior of the camaro I think is pretty cool but that's personal preference. The price was also higher but it just felt better after driving it. Plus, there were so many Stangs on the road I thought it would be nice to have something a bit less common up my way. I found the handling better and I liked the fact that you sit down low like being in a cockpit rather than sitting "on top" of the Mustang. Just drive both and that is what you should base your decision on because I think both are nice. Ultimately, if I could sum up my experience in testing both: The Mustang felt like a "poor mans" way to get 400hp. I'm not saying not a costly vehicle but it felt inferiorly built (cheaper) than the Camaro to me (the independent rear suspension makes a diff).

Good luck
J

TIREKLR · 11-06-2015, 07:18 AM

Haha

cowboy casey · 11-06-2015, 07:23 AM

I have an F250, so its not a Ford or Chevy thing for me... I was looking at both and then I drove the 2015 1LE 2SS... It was all over...

motorhead · 11-06-2015, 07:39 AM

How much are you looking to spend for this replacement for you old one? Also are you more of a straight liner or do you want handling for twisties? Do you like a light nimble feel or a more luxury car ride?

As a guess with you owning many mustangs (I have too) I would say you would be most happy with a 2010 and up GT500. Thus my first question. You really need to go drive several for more than just the normal trip around the block test drive.

Rangore · 11-06-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCamOwner

Don't let anyone "sway" you into anything. You know what you will like, and go with it. I never liked the Mustang, but around 2006 I went out to Vegas and rented a Mustang Convertible and loved it. I was never impressed with the interior before that, but they had just redesigned it. Since they have redesigned it again, I am back to not being impressed with the interior. That is my preference. I tend to put a lot of miles on a car, and liking the interior is very important to me.

You're right...this is another factor for me, but didn't think of it when I posted earlier. I like that the interior of the Camaro feels unique and like I'm not in a regular car. I like the short windows. I don't care about the visibility...that's easy to get use to for me.

With the look of the interior and chopped top look....I'll gladly accept the more challenging rear visibility.

rontammy0 · 11-06-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TIREKLR

Haha

I never get sick of these llol

11-05-2015, 11:20 PM	#1
V8forlife Drives: Procharged '03 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 11	Thinking about leaving the Fords and getting an SS Hi all, so I'm thinking about going for a 2013-ish Camaro SS or Mustang GT. The only cars I've ever owned were Mustangs, and I'm on my fourth now. It's a 2003 Mach 1 (it's a 32 valve DOHC, not 16 valve SOHC like the GT) with a Procharger making 448 rwhp. Only 27k miles. I don't have to sell it or anything, it's running great but lately I've had thoughts about just getting something newer. I LOVE my Mach 1, it's a beast but it's really at about it's safe limit without digging into the motor and it's just not worth it on a 12 year old car. Both the new 'stang and Camaro motors have so much more potential than the old 4.6. Even as it stands, pushing this much power through it makes me nervous every time I get on it. I've got an awesome tune, and it's probably going to last a long time but it's still hard not to worry about a rod ventilating my block. So I guess the reason I'm here is to see if I can be swayed over to the DARK SIDE instead of getting another Mustang. Obviously you guys prefer Chevy. What is it about the 5th gen Camaro that makes you guys take it over the Mustang 5.0? As far as looks go, they're about a wash for me. I like 'em both.

11-05-2015, 11:46 PM	#2
Rangore Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Ed Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,220	This discussion/debate has been going on since the cars came out. I don't know what magic statement would sway you. I can only say that is a looks thing for me. Mechanically they go back and forth for dominating performance...excluding tuned cars. However, those basically who spends more money IMO. For me...it's the looks. Mustangs are good looking cars once you do some work to them IMO. Factory wise the Camaro is a better base to build from looks wise. I think the Camaro is a better looking car and have thought so since my first one back in 93. Good luck and hope we see you join our ranks. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Edition - No longer owned: 2010 Camaro 2LT, 1993 Camaro Z-28

11-06-2015, 12:03 AM	#3
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 4,210	Yeah, I'm not sure a "Chevy Man" or "Ford Man" can ever really be satisfied on the respective dark side. These kind of things are the stuff of legend, family feuds and ostracizing! Until the new Mustang came out, many Fords just looked over inflated. They really refined the new Mustang. Nice lines. So, for me it's look as well. But when it came to muscle car attraction, I have always been a GM man. I'm going to advise YOU to buy a newer Mustang. __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

11-06-2015, 01:00 AM	#4
crysalis_01 Iron fist, lead foot Drives: 2003 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,243	OP, buy what you want. You can't go wrong with a modern pony car. They perform at a level that will satisfy regardless of which badge is in the grill. My only advice is to test them yourself and don't worry about what other people or magazines have to say. You're the one who will be behind the wheel, so in the end it has to be your call. Also, the 4.6 isn't so bad. I happen to love mine. __________________ '03 SVT Cobra-SC4.6L V8 \|\| modded with mods'n'stuff

11-06-2015, 01:36 AM	#6
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	I was in kind of a similar situation. I came from owning four Mustangs, most recently a '12 and was considering moving over to the dark side, also. Ultimately, I entertained the idea for two reasons; I was tired of the straight line game and saw that the 5th gen, most notably the 1LE's and newer model Camaros had revised suspension packages that made them no joke in the turns - secondly, I wanted to see what all the hype was about after all these years, when it came to the fabled LS engine. So, I test drove what eventually became my current vehicle. Much to my dismay, I couldn't track down a 1LE that wasn't already a 2SS and they were on production hold until the '15 models were being made so, I entertained this one because of its options. The power was woafully underwhelming. Period. I was expecting something completely different. But I understood that the car was stock and perhaps with a tune and a couple of goodies, it would wake the car up. Also, the 1LE suspension package could be had for as little as $1200 at the time so, it didn't seem so bad. Long story short, I did a couple of mods and generally speaking, I'm content with the purchase but I am by no means whatsoever sold on this platform. Be that as it may, I'll likely keep it for a good long while for financial reasons and nickel and dime a few mods over the years until something else I can't resist comes along. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

11-06-2015, 01:05 AM	#5
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	This will go off the tracks anytime now haha. The mustangs a great car.....I just like my camaro more.

11-06-2015, 06:27 AM	#7
NYCamOwner "Katy" Drives: 2014 2LT A6 'Vert Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Western New York Posts: 1,076 View My Garage	Don't let anyone "sway" you into anything. You know what you will like, and go with it. I never liked the Mustang, but around 2006 I went out to Vegas and rented a Mustang Convertible and loved it. I was never impressed with the interior before that, but they had just redesigned it. Since they have redesigned it again, I am back to not being impressed with the interior. That is my preference. I tend to put a lot of miles on a car, and liking the interior is very important to me. __________________ 2014 Black 2LT Convertible Elite Engineering Catch Can, Vitesse Throttle Controller, CAI Cold Air Intake Possible next mods: Throttle Body Exhaust Upstate C5 Member No, that is not me in the avatar..... I just love hot girls and hot cars.... or hot girls IN hot cars....

11-06-2015, 06:58 AM	#8
atressler85 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 54	Mustangs are a great car, no doubt about that, but I'm all for the Camaro. I test drove a few mustangs before I started looking at the Camaros, and I felt that the Camaro handled better. It could have been a biased opinion because I've always wanted a Camaro mainly because I think they look so awesome. Personally, every time I see a Camaro, it turns my head. When a mustang drives by, I barely notice. Clearly it's a looks thing for me, that's why I chose the Camaro. __________________ --- 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS --- K&N CAI, BBK Headers, Borla Exhaust

11-06-2015, 07:13 AM	#9
Jasper Drives: 2011 Summit White Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Welland, Ontario Canada Posts: 547	Hi, I got my SS 1yr ago and was totally open to a Mustang or Camaro. I test drove both and found that as a previous poster said, the Camaro had more in it and better driving feel than the Stang. The interior of the camaro I think is pretty cool but that's personal preference. The price was also higher but it just felt better after driving it. Plus, there were so many Stangs on the road I thought it would be nice to have something a bit less common up my way. I found the handling better and I liked the fact that you sit down low like being in a cockpit rather than sitting "on top" of the Mustang. Just drive both and that is what you should base your decision on because I think both are nice. Ultimately, if I could sum up my experience in testing both: The Mustang felt like a "poor mans" way to get 400hp. I'm not saying not a costly vehicle but it felt inferiorly built (cheaper) than the Camaro to me (the independent rear suspension makes a diff). Good luck J

11-06-2015, 07:18 AM	#10
TIREKLR Drives: 2015 zl1 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 308	Haha Attached Images

11-06-2015, 07:23 AM	#11
cowboy casey Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: United States Posts: 111 View My Garage	I have an F250, so its not a Ford or Chevy thing for me... I was looking at both and then I drove the 2015 1LE 2SS... It was all over... __________________ My Daily Driver, 2015 2SS, 1LE

11-06-2015, 07:39 AM	#12
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	How much are you looking to spend for this replacement for you old one? Also are you more of a straight liner or do you want handling for twisties? Do you like a light nimble feel or a more luxury car ride? As a guess with you owning many mustangs (I have too) I would say you would be most happy with a 2010 and up GT500. Thus my first question. You really need to go drive several for more than just the normal trip around the block test drive.