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JoeP@TeamBeckyD · 09-17-2012, 08:38 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...ine-looms.html

The Canadian Auto Workers union says it will continue negotiating with GM and Chrysler past the midnight strike deadline, averting a labour walkout for now.

The union, which hours earlier struck a tentative deal with Ford Motor Co., said it will keep talking with the remaining automakers as long as progress is being made.

But it also said that if talks stall, it will issue a 24-hour strike notice.

Earlier, CAW head Ken Lewenza warned that the union would ask Chrysler and GM to accept the Ford deal as a pattern settlement, otherwise "we will have to withdraw our labour."

"That is the last tool in the bargaining toolbox," he said. "The minute we go out on strike, I'm going to be able to look you in the eye and say we had no choice."

"So I say to Chrysler and General Motors respectively; don't force us to use that last tool."

Ford employs 4,534 unionized workers in Canada. Chrysler and GM employ more than 8,000 unionized workers each. Neither General Motors of Chrysler would comment on the deal with Ford.

Negotiations between the Big Three North American automakers and their Canadian workers have been under the gun, as a midnight deadline to reach a deal nears. The CAW had said its strategy was to focus its energies on negotiations with Ford before trying to make a similar deal with the other companies.

"We have unanimously agreed to take to our membership a tentative collective agreement that we believe meets the objective of our unions. of course, meets the needs, the objective of our membership but just as important, meets the objectives of Ford Motor Company in terms of their position for future investment which, as we all know, are challenging times in the auto industry," Lewenza said.

The four-year agreement will see no base wage increases. But if the deal is approved, employees would be eligible for a $3,000 bonus after ratification. As well, in December 2013, 2014, 2015, employees would receive a $2,000 cost-of-living bonus.

Lewenza also said that Ford will create approximately 600 new positions in Canada, most of those at Ford's Oakville, Ont., assembly plant.

A Ford Canada spokeswoman said Monday that the agreement will help the company remain competitive, but declined to provide additional details as the deal still has to be ratified by CAW members.

"We believe that the tentative agreement offers unique-to-Canada solutions that will improve the competitiveness of the Canadian operations while providing employees the opportunity to earn a good living," said

OmniCamaro · 09-17-2012, 09:21 PM

That's what they get for putting it in Canada!

This is the first I've even heard of any kind of strike. What are they asking for? Nevermind, I'm sure it's money.

razorz28 · 09-17-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OmniCamaro

That's what they get for putting it in Canada!

This is the first I've even heard of any kind of strike. What are they asking for? Nevermind, I'm sure it's money.

Oh I didn't know they don't strike in the USA.

tonyko1 · 09-17-2012, 09:46 PM

Interesting, the UAW owns a good chunk of GM now, so they can strike against themselves?

Cam2011 · 09-17-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OmniCamaro

That's what they get for putting it in Canada!

This is the first I've even heard of any kind of strike. What are they asking for? Nevermind, I'm sure it's money.

Yeah, god forbid that the worker get their fair share.

OmniCamaro · 09-17-2012, 10:11 PM

I don't know the straight facts and that's my fault, but I truly don't care about the facts. I do not like the fact that an American car is made in another country, even Canada. I hate picking up EVERYTHING in American stores and seeing some other country on the sticker! This is just another bad move, IMO. I saw the GM plant where I live close last month so this serves them right in my book. Strike away!

Taking it personal is on you. I dislike all other countries equally, I'm an American!

ShnOmac · 09-17-2012, 10:13 PM

motorhead · 09-17-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam2011

Yeah, god forbid that the worker get their fair share.

It's a fine line between workers getting their fair share and companies being able to stay profitable. I believe that GM is mainly not trying to repeat the steps that got them into trouble in the first place. You could double what someone makes overnight ,and they would still find something to complain about. I have no problem with union labor in my business because I can blow them out of the water on price and provide just as good if not better work. They try to even it up on government jobs with prevailing wage ,but that just means my men make a little more and cost governments more money for the same work. What's wrong with that picture?

Beer Thirty · 09-17-2012, 10:26 PM

I wonder how much cheaper a car would be if there was no unions.

motorhead · 09-17-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Thirty

I wonder how much cheaper a car would be if there was no unions.

That's the really funny thing. They wouldn't be any cheaper unless the market forced them to be.

GbrilliantQ · 09-17-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Thirty

I wonder how much cheaper a car would be if there was no unions.

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09-17-2012, 08:38 PM	#1
JoeP@TeamBeckyD Drives: SS,PaceCar,ZL1,1LE,C7Z51,Z06,17-ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Detroit, Mich Posts: 68,623	CAW extending talks with GM, Chrysler... http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...ine-looms.html The Canadian Auto Workers union says it will continue negotiating with GM and Chrysler past the midnight strike deadline, averting a labour walkout for now. The union, which hours earlier struck a tentative deal with Ford Motor Co., said it will keep talking with the remaining automakers as long as progress is being made. But it also said that if talks stall, it will issue a 24-hour strike notice. Earlier, CAW head Ken Lewenza warned that the union would ask Chrysler and GM to accept the Ford deal as a pattern settlement, otherwise "we will have to withdraw our labour." "That is the last tool in the bargaining toolbox," he said. "The minute we go out on strike, I'm going to be able to look you in the eye and say we had no choice." "So I say to Chrysler and General Motors respectively; don't force us to use that last tool." Ford employs 4,534 unionized workers in Canada. Chrysler and GM employ more than 8,000 unionized workers each. Neither General Motors of Chrysler would comment on the deal with Ford. Negotiations between the Big Three North American automakers and their Canadian workers have been under the gun, as a midnight deadline to reach a deal nears. The CAW had said its strategy was to focus its energies on negotiations with Ford before trying to make a similar deal with the other companies. "We have unanimously agreed to take to our membership a tentative collective agreement that we believe meets the objective of our unions. of course, meets the needs, the objective of our membership but just as important, meets the objectives of Ford Motor Company in terms of their position for future investment which, as we all know, are challenging times in the auto industry," Lewenza said. The four-year agreement will see no base wage increases. But if the deal is approved, employees would be eligible for a $3,000 bonus after ratification. As well, in December 2013, 2014, 2015, employees would receive a $2,000 cost-of-living bonus. Lewenza also said that Ford will create approximately 600 new positions in Canada, most of those at Ford's Oakville, Ont., assembly plant. A Ford Canada spokeswoman said Monday that the agreement will help the company remain competitive, but declined to provide additional details as the deal still has to be ratified by CAW members. "We believe that the tentative agreement offers unique-to-Canada solutions that will improve the competitiveness of the Canadian operations while providing employees the opportunity to earn a good living," said

09-17-2012, 09:21 PM	#2
OmniCamaro US Veteran Drives: 2011 Silver Ice Metallic 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bossier City, La Posts: 1,407	That's what they get for putting it in Canada! This is the first I've even heard of any kind of strike. What are they asking for? Nevermind, I'm sure it's money. __________________ *Dear Lord, give me the strength to carry on despite my Camaro addiction!* JRE iTSX tune, full cat-less Dynatech exhaust, CAI intake, Stillen Slotted/Drilled Rotors, RB braided brake lines, BMR lowering springs, (reserved for definite future MODS)

09-17-2012, 10:11 PM	#6
OmniCamaro US Veteran Drives: 2011 Silver Ice Metallic 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bossier City, La Posts: 1,407	I don't know the straight facts and that's my fault, but I truly don't care about the facts. I do not like the fact that an American car is made in another country, even Canada. I hate picking up EVERYTHING in American stores and seeing some other country on the sticker! This is just another bad move, IMO. I saw the GM plant where I live close last month so this serves them right in my book. Strike away! Taking it personal is on you. I dislike all other countries equally, I'm an American! __________________ *Dear Lord, give me the strength to carry on despite my Camaro addiction!* JRE iTSX tune, full cat-less Dynatech exhaust, CAI intake, Stillen Slotted/Drilled Rotors, RB braided brake lines, BMR lowering springs, (reserved for definite future MODS)

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tonyko1 Banned Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible, IBM Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,015	Interesting, the UAW owns a good chunk of GM now, so they can strike against themselves?

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Beer Thirty 5:30 somewhere Drives: 2015 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pensacola,florida Posts: 334	I wonder how much cheaper a car would be if there was no unions.