where will the SS be in two yrs

[Devil-eyes]

do you think they will raise the price of the car since it beats its competetion in everything?

well we see a shit load of them on the road like the 350z's?

[Hooy]

Originally Posted by Devil-eyes

do you think they will raise the price of the car since it beats its competetion in everything?

well we see a shit load of them on the road like the 350z's?

No - Other cars will become better than the first model year SS's.
Yes - But hopefully not too soon.

[1BADLS3]

Looks like neither prediction came true. Price has stayed relatively even for the 2011 model year, and while a lot of people have them, it's not a "common" sports car like all the ragged out 350z's and off-lease G35 coupes.

Happy 2011, everyone

[Big Brunsy]

fact - there will never be a more common sports car than the Mustang.

[mikeSS]

well they compete maybe with a 370z, not 350z they dont even make them anymore since 2008. and the 2010-2011 camaro doesnt even "beat" 2011 mustang or 370z in some areas... for example the 370z is more of a overall sports car, where the camaro is more of a drag muscle type car. so is the camaro better then the 370z no, is the 370z better then the camaro no.


lol if they raised the price sales would go down

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by Devil-eyes

do you think they will raise the price of the car since it beats its competetion in everything?

well we see a shit load of them on the road like the 350z's?

Hi, I think within the next two years you will see a decline in the market for the high HP cars because of rising fuel costs and around 2016 you'll see a 6th gen Camaro thats lighter, smaller and more fuel efficient. That is if they don't drop the model altogether again. There is writing on the wall about the economy and fuel prices. Thats a bold prediction but what the heck.....it's one side of the potential pendulum swing. Anydody have any thoughts on where we are heading?

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Hi, I think within the next two years you will see a decline in the market for the high HP cars because of rising fuel costs and around 2016 you'll see a 6th gen Camaro thats lighter, smaller and more fuel efficient. That is if they don't drop the model altogether again. There is writing on the wall about the economy and fuel prices. Thats a bold prediction but what the heck.....it's one side of the potential pendulum swing. Anydody have any thoughts on where we are heading?

i think if they do drop the camaro in 6th gen time, they will still make corvettes but limited. i think gas prices are going to get higher. but i got a feeling something will happen to make them go down again in a few years

[el ess A]

Yeah, something will happen to drop gas prices right before the 2012 elections. Mark it on the calendars.

[WHIPPLECHARGED]

I heard on the news that gas prices are going to reach 5 dollars per gallon by 2012. If this happens we will definitely see a decline in sales on the Camaro or any other vehicle in the low 20 mpg range.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by Devil-eyes

do you think they will raise the price of the car since it beats its competetion in everything?

well we see a shit load of them on the road like the 350z's?

Well, I don't think they will raise the price of the car "too much", perhaps maybe a 1k increase in the SS' price since it's getting some new features here and there. I doubt, and hope to god, I DONT so alot of them on the road like Mustangs or Chargers, it would make me feel very common or unoriginal. I'd start making cosmetic changes quick to keep up with year change.

Hi, I think within the next two years you will see a decline in the market for the high HP cars because of rising fuel costs and around 2016 you'll see a 6th gen Camaro thats lighter, smaller and more fuel efficient. That is if they don't drop the model altogether again. There is writing on the wall about the economy and fuel prices. Thats a bold prediction but what the heck.....it's one side of the potential pendulum swing. Anydody have any thoughts on where we are heading?

Yeah, something will happen to drop gas prices right before the 2012 elections. Mark it on the calendars.

I highly doubt, with the current economic state of the U.S. that gas prices will drop before OR after ANY election. Why? Well, for one, many countries are now beginning to drop the dollar as the world "reserve" currency. They are dropping the dollar and accepting other things like "euros" because the dollar is rapidly losing it's value and purchase power. It's losing it value because the of the "Federal Reserve" a private bank, independent of the United States who loves to just print more and more money out of "thin air"!

And what does printing money out of thin air do? It devalues the overall currency already within circulation. Whenever the U.S. government gets in trouble, "hey,....print us some more money so we can spend more and get what we want", all the while totally undermining the currency in circulation. Money or "currency" use to be backed by "gold" or "silver" to thereby give it it's value, but now.....it's totally backed by nothing. YES! Totally nothing but what the Federal Reserve calls "the confidence and full faith of the American people". Look it up!! So our money is backed by our confidence and faith?! lol. In another words, it's backed by NOTHING. And yet they have all of our gold! Not the treasury. This is why you see protest of "end the federal reserve" and why so many Americans, republicans and democrats alike, are angry. And as time progresses on, things will get worst, not better, unless we actually take control of our own economic system rather than let an independent, private, foreign bank, do it! That totally goes against everything this country was founded on. The founding fathers are totally rolling in they're graves.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." --Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.

"When you or I write a check there must be sufficient funds in our account to cover the check, but when the Federal Reserve writes a check there is no bank deposit on which that check is drawn. When the Federal Reserve writes a check, it is creating money."-- Putting it simply, Boston Federal Reserve Bank

Within regards to high horsepower V8s after 2012, I believe that because of the raising cost of importing natural resources from other countries who are moving to reject the dollar all together, we WILL see a raise in the cost of gas, and not only gas,......FOOD. Thus, this will force U.S. automakers to develop more "fuel efficient" cars, vehicles which burn up less gas and put out less emissions. Your introduction into these new directions automakers are taking is 1. The Chevrolet Volt,...and the Ford Focus, and many other cars that automakers are pushing "hybrid" versions of. If you haven't noticed,....these hybrids are great on gas,......but slow as hell for a performance car guy lol.

Now you may be inclined to disagree with me about the gas and food prices raising because of other countries rejecting our currency but I'm sorry, the data doesn't lie. And you all can find out about this stuff if you researched a little. China, one of our number one suppliers, are getting out!

"Cheng Siwei" former Vice chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress said that "China is going to stop putting so much money into U.S. dollars, and will instead look to the Japanese Yen and the Euro."

China holds more U.S. dollars than anyone else on the planet, but China is moving away from the dollar as fast as they can without crashing they're own economy. China's total holding of U.S. dollars peaked in 2009, since then, it has greatly declined, which would indicate, by all laws of logic, they are dumping the dollar.

HSBC one of the largest banks in Mexico, no longer accepts U.S.dollars at they're bank. Also Bloomberg News Recently reported that China and Russia plan to start trading in they're own currencies to diminish the dollars role in global trade. Just to drive the point home, if your a reader of many economic journals you'll know, some of the worlds biggest investors, multi-million dollar men, are advising it's clients to "move away" from investing in the dollars and instead another form of currency.

Bill Gross, manager of the world’s largest bond fund, had this to say, “We’ve told all of our clients that if you only had one idea, one investment, it would be to buy an investment in a non- dollar currency. That should be on top of the list.”

Warren Buffett, recently said this on 25th Oct 2007, “We still are negative on the dollar relative to most major currencies, so we bought stocks in companies that earn their money in other currencies“.

Jim Rogers, billionaire trader and former partner of George Soros said “The dollar is collapsing. I’m moving to Asia because moving to Asia now is like moving to New York in 1907 or London in 1807. It’s the wave of the future.”

Now, all of this isn't to scare you at all, or anything like that, but just to inform you that "the times are changing". And don't think "it cannot happen here in America", because it can. The United States is not immune to the laws of economics and finance. If you know anything about history, in every circumstance where a government has tried to "inflate" it's debts away, have all ended in disaster. With all of this being said, Automakers WILL HAVE TO build more fuel efficient, less hp cars to compensate this change.

The standards set upon them will get stricter, and I wouldn't be foolish to call the new Camaro Z28 one of the last high hp pushrod V8s available to the public, because after 2012, V8s are going to be less attractive to many automakers who have "efficiency" and "mileage" in mind, we may very well start to see turbocharged V6s being commonly used from then on, as opposed to the massive gas guzzling high displacement V8 we are so in love with.

All of this should be of no surprise to those who actually turn off Fox News' propaganda and read from other sources. I don't like it, but from what has been said by many authorities and shown through data, the dollar is on it's way out, and so is our vicious snarling beast we call V8s. Thank god we can still buy crate engines. Keep this in mind,......the International Monetary Fund the (IMF) recently published a paper calling for a "new global world currency". A paper entitled " Reserve Accumulation and International Monetary Stability" written by the Strategy, Policy, and Review Department of the IMF, recommends the world adopt a global currency called the "Bancor" with a global central bank to administer the currency; dated April 13, 2010. This is not a rumor, and it's a deadly serious proposal, and it's from one of the world most powerful institutions in the world in an official document. We all need to see where all this is heading.

You can hope, and wish, gas and oil prices went down before the election just to boost one political candidates numbers temporarily, but I'm looking at reality and not something which has no basis in point of fact. Gas will go up,....and so will food. Shit is going to get bad. All we can do is pray for deliverance. lol. BTW,....doubt me, you can look up the official documents online; its in the public domain, and you can also google the said quotes for a link to the direct news article which contains the statements.

Thank You.

[csjcsj]

They will have the ECO-Boost!! LOL!!!

[BluGoose2]

I think in two years if gas prices keep going up sales will drop for sure. Muscle cars are unique and will always be around no matter how high gas prices go. Driving habits may change but the love of a muscle car will not. I remember when gas was 75 cents and when it went to $1.00 I freaked out.

[INTIMIDAT3R]

If we're going to be doomed to V-6's, at least a V-6 with twin turbos doesn't sound too bad. Anyone remember the Grand National GNX? It may have only gotten 23 mpg on the highway but with today's technology, should be able to get a lot more out of it.

[Big Brunsy]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

All of this should be of no surprise to those who actually turn off Fox News' propaganda and read from other sources. I don't like it, but from what has been said by many authorities and shown through data, the dollar is on it's way out, and so is our vicious snarling beast we call V8s. Thank god we can still buy crate engines. Keep this in mind,......the International Monetary Fund the (IMF) recently published a paper calling for a "new global world currency". A paper entitled " Reserve Accumulation and International Monetary Stability" written by the Strategy, Policy, and Review Department of the IMF, recommends the world adopt a global currency called the "Bancor" with a global central bank to administer the currency; dated April 13, 2010. This is not a rumor, and it's a deadly serious proposal, and it's from one of the world most powerful institutions in the world in an official document. We all need to see where all this is heading.

A global anything is bad news. The worst thing that could happen is a 'world government' or a 'world currency'. What works for one country and their way of life doesn't work for another.