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upflying · 03-19-2011, 05:06 PM

No, it doesn't exist but would there be a market for a hypothetical light-weight Camaro equipped as follows?

LS3
C6 Corvette Grand Sport engine upgrades to 430hp
sport exhaust
all SS mechanical upgrades
6M required
radio delete
AC delete
manual windows
manual locks
manual seats, black only
cloth interior
sound insulation delete
rear seat delete
spoiler delete
air compressor delete
rubber floor mat in place of carpet
limited solid color choices
aluminum hood/trunk lid

$28,995

oldfriend · 03-19-2011, 05:22 PM

YEAH , but for that price not sure !

P3SAR · 03-19-2011, 08:49 PM

Unfortunately, I think that price would be a tad higher.

Kahdir · 03-19-2011, 08:53 PM

Quote:

LS3
C6 Corvette Grand Sport engine upgrades to 430hp
sport exhaust
all SS mechanical upgrades
6M required
air compressor delete
aluminum hood/trunk lid

I'm fine with above, the rest is for the birds...

ketel0ne · 03-19-2011, 09:06 PM

So a Gen5 COPO. Not gonna happen but a nice thought, I suppose.

Kent2010 · 03-20-2011, 12:30 PM

In a word -- "no". There would not be a market for a totally stripped down V8 Camaro as you describe. For people who need a lower price option, the V6 Camaro is an excellent option, and with over 300HP, is still very desireable.

99% of new car buyers are not buying the car just to strip it to a shell and go racing. Also, removing AC is just not an option for most buyers, especially here in the southern half of the USA, unless they are buying a track-only toy.

Additionally, replacing the items like power windows with manual windows is NOT cheaper... its more expensive. Since there are NO 5G Camaros produced without power windows, GM would have to design and produce brand new door panels, door seals and manual window mechanisms and produce them in very small numbers (small production runs are costly too).

However, it would be my guess that the dry sump LS3 *will* make its way into the upcoming Z28, along with some lighter-weight components, real sport seats, big brakes/tires, and a cowl-induction hood, but it is NOT going to be a stripper/lower-cost option like the model you describe.

Cheers,
Kent

upflying · 03-20-2011, 02:50 PM

Ok, maybe a limited run of COPO stripped Camaro's for racing, say 250 units. These cars would be worth gold in a few years. While consumer demand would be limited, I bet enthusiasts, racers and investors would snap these up.

nancygrl · 03-20-2011, 04:03 PM

Like the goat says in that Aflac commercial...nah, nah, nah.

ewynn9 · 03-20-2011, 10:29 PM

No A/C, and no radio.....screw that

upflying · 03-21-2011, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewynn9

No A/C, and no radio.....screw that

But why would a factory race car need them?

Rogue Leader · 03-21-2011, 09:25 AM

This topic has been discussed here many times with Fbodfather stepping in an saying there is no chance in hell of it happening.

The cliff notes being its not worth the cost of things like developing new door frames and panels etc to delete power windows. Can't delete the radio as it runs many of the car's systems as well.

In short its not worth the development expense for the 10 people who are going to buy it. They can do things like this in 10 years when the company is profitable 100% of the time, the loans are paid off and they have money to burn.

ewynn9 · 03-21-2011, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upflying

But why would a factory race car need them?

Why do we need a factory race car that would only see the track and nothing else? If the competition isn't doing this, GM won't do it.

Lazerbrainz2k3 · 03-21-2011, 01:51 PM

You can get that car (though what good limiting paint and interior colors does is beyond me). Order a body in white and build it up just the way you want it.

Rogue Leader · 03-21-2011, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazerbrainz2k3

You can get that car (though what good limiting paint and interior colors does is beyond me). Order a body in white and build it up just the way you want it.

I think he wants a car you can also drive on the street. BIW cars are not street legal, they have no VIN.

03-19-2011, 05:06 PM	#1
upflying Drives: '86 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,119	Hypothetical Camaro Club Sport No, it doesn't exist but would there be a market for a hypothetical light-weight Camaro equipped as follows? LS3 C6 Corvette Grand Sport engine upgrades to 430hp sport exhaust all SS mechanical upgrades 6M required radio delete AC delete manual windows manual locks manual seats, black only cloth interior sound insulation delete rear seat delete spoiler delete air compressor delete rubber floor mat in place of carpet limited solid color choices aluminum hood/trunk lid $28,995

03-19-2011, 08:49 PM	#3
P3SAR Waiting to Drive Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS IBM w/SIM Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Germantown, TN Posts: 164	Unfortunately, I think that price would be a tad higher. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2ss/rs IBM 6M with SIM stripes

03-20-2011, 10:29 PM	#9
ewynn9 Drives: IOM 1LT/RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: McKinney TX Posts: 596	No A/C, and no radio.....screw that __________________

03-21-2011, 09:25 AM	#11
Rogue Leader Iatefiberglassinsulation Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,601 View My Garage	This topic has been discussed here many times with Fbodfather stepping in an saying there is no chance in hell of it happening. The cliff notes being its not worth the cost of things like developing new door frames and panels etc to delete power windows. Can't delete the radio as it runs many of the car's systems as well. In short its not worth the development expense for the 10 people who are going to buy it. They can do things like this in 10 years when the company is profitable 100% of the time, the loans are paid off and they have money to burn. __________________ 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS - was daily driver, now toy 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - Daily Driver 2017 Mercedes Benz GLE 350 - Wifes Car 2008 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD LT 6.0 - Tow Vehicle 1991 Alfa Romeo 164S - Project Car 1994 Volkswagen Golf - Race Car "Like" my race team on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/farfrumwinnin

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03-20-2011, 12:30 PM	#6
Kent2010 Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 188	In a word -- "no". There would not be a market for a totally stripped down V8 Camaro as you describe. For people who need a lower price option, the V6 Camaro is an excellent option, and with over 300HP, is still very desireable. 99% of new car buyers are not buying the car just to strip it to a shell and go racing. Also, removing AC is just not an option for most buyers, especially here in the southern half of the USA, unless they are buying a track-only toy. Additionally, replacing the items like power windows with manual windows is NOT cheaper... its more expensive. Since there are NO 5G Camaros produced without power windows, GM would have to design and produce brand new door panels, door seals and manual window mechanisms and produce them in very small numbers (small production runs are costly too). However, it would be my guess that the dry sump LS3 will make its way into the upcoming Z28, along with some lighter-weight components, real sport seats, big brakes/tires, and a cowl-induction hood, but it is NOT going to be a stripper/lower-cost option like the model you describe. Cheers, Kent

03-20-2011, 02:50 PM	#7
upflying Drives: '86 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,119	Ok, maybe a limited run of COPO stripped Camaro's for racing, say 250 units. These cars would be worth gold in a few years. While consumer demand would be limited, I bet enthusiasts, racers and investors would snap these up.

03-20-2011, 04:03 PM	#8
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	Like the goat says in that Aflac commercial...nah, nah, nah.

03-21-2011, 01:51 PM	#13
Lazerbrainz2k3 Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS - M6, NPP, MRC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Delco, PA Posts: 971	You can get that car (though what good limiting paint and interior colors does is beyond me). Order a body in white and build it up just the way you want it.