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SSBUSDRVR · 08-14-2011, 01:19 PM

If you go with an aftermarket intake down the road( Considering ADM or Roto-Fab or modifying my CAI Intake ) is another tune required with a blower? Will have a custom tune done after E-Force install instead of canned tune. Car will already have exhaust work done. THX.

The Stig · 08-14-2011, 02:18 PM

You shouldnt need to retune after the cold air intake. But if you are getting it tuned anyway just inform your tuner that you plan on putting in a CAI soon.

JM10 · 08-14-2011, 04:14 PM

You should get a tune, at least that's what I did.

The car is going to run leaner by having more flow of air due to the new CAI.

SSBUSDRVR · 08-14-2011, 04:35 PM

Thanks was thinking about it after posting and hoping the FI installer may modify the CAI Intake tube(already on car) for the E-Force like what some have done and posted recently in the bolt on section.Then it can be tuned. Haven't asked them yet, but they do a lot of custom fabrication work. Going to print out the instructions a member posted and show it to them. Doesn't hurt to ask.

POWERFREAK · 08-14-2011, 05:25 PM

Yes, get it tuned.

Juiced1 · 08-14-2011, 06:18 PM

Changing anything in front of the MAF sensor shouldn't require a tune for the most part. It won't lean you out because the MAF is telling your ECM you are receiving more air! Anything after the MAF you should retune! You should be fine without a tune just changing an intake tube but it makes sense to get it done. If you plan on more mods it wouldn't hurt to wait though!

GMRULZ · 08-15-2011, 07:19 AM

I would definetly get tuned. You may see a 1/2 lb to a full lb more of boost at WOT due to the intake being less restrictive than the stock airbox. This will make the car more lean. The MAF is not going to adjust WOT except w/ long term fuel trims and that could put his fuel trims over +25% plus its not ideal and will leave hp on the table. However part throttle it will be fine.

Louis @ LG Motorsports · 08-15-2011, 07:35 PM

x5 on getting a tune. If you change the diameter of the MAF housing ( Like a lot of the Air intakes do) the metered volume of air vs the MAF frequency changes, and fueling will be different.

You MAY be able to squeak by with out a tune, but thats entirely up to you. On a stock car, you are not playing with fire like you are on a blown set up.

Louis

nitto85 · 08-15-2011, 08:46 PM

I'd get it tuned.

SSBUSDRVR · 08-15-2011, 09:04 PM

Thanks for the input. Tune after intake will be done.

08-14-2011, 01:19 PM	#1
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,746 View My Garage	Retune after Air Intake Install? E-Force If you go with an aftermarket intake down the road( Considering ADM or Roto-Fab or modifying my CAI Intake ) is another tune required with a blower? Will have a custom tune done after E-Force install instead of canned tune. Car will already have exhaust work done. THX. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

08-14-2011, 02:18 PM	#2
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	You shouldnt need to retune after the cold air intake. But if you are getting it tuned anyway just inform your tuner that you plan on putting in a CAI soon. __________________

08-14-2011, 04:14 PM	#3
JM10 Se habla español Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS VR Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arizona/Sonora Posts: 605	You should get a tune, at least that's what I did. The car is going to run leaner by having more flow of air due to the new CAI. __________________ 2010 VR 2SS/RS BMR Suspension Parts Hendrix HD Axles DSS Aluminum Shaft RPM Diff / 3.91 Gears LPE ZR1 Clutch Edelbrock E-Force SC / JRE Fuel Upgrade Livernois 1C cam 570 rwhp/559 rwtq SAE Best 1/4 time: 11.43

08-14-2011, 04:35 PM	#4
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,746 View My Garage	Thanks was thinking about it after posting and hoping the FI installer may modify the CAI Intake tube(already on car) for the E-Force like what some have done and posted recently in the bolt on section.Then it can be tuned. Haven't asked them yet, but they do a lot of custom fabrication work. Going to print out the instructions a member posted and show it to them. Doesn't hurt to ask. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

08-14-2011, 05:25 PM	#5
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS/A6 cammed-n-whippled Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,637	Yes, get it tuned. __________________ https://FeelingCreativeBlog.com

08-14-2011, 06:18 PM	#6
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,648	Changing anything in front of the MAF sensor shouldn't require a tune for the most part. It won't lean you out because the MAF is telling your ECM you are receiving more air! Anything after the MAF you should retune! You should be fine without a tune just changing an intake tube but it makes sense to get it done. If you plan on more mods it wouldn't hurt to wait though! Last edited by Juiced1; 08-18-2011 at 09:42 AM.

08-15-2011, 07:19 AM	#7
GMRULZ Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,819	I would definetly get tuned. You may see a 1/2 lb to a full lb more of boost at WOT due to the intake being less restrictive than the stock airbox. This will make the car more lean. The MAF is not going to adjust WOT except w/ long term fuel trims and that could put his fuel trims over +25% plus its not ideal and will leave hp on the table. However part throttle it will be fine. __________________ 2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter. Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s! Other car 2008 C6 Ls3, z51, A6, Npp Exhaust, best bonestock pass 11.80@118.82, Number 2 on the Corvette Forums Bonestock fastest list..

08-15-2011, 07:35 PM	#8
Louis @ LG Motorsports Drives: 2010 SS/RS 2009 CG Z06 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dallas Tx Posts: 122	x5 on getting a tune. If you change the diameter of the MAF housing ( Like a lot of the Air intakes do) the metered volume of air vs the MAF frequency changes, and fueling will be different. You MAY be able to squeak by with out a tune, but thats entirely up to you. On a stock car, you are not playing with fire like you are on a blown set up. Louis

08-15-2011, 08:46 PM	#9
nitto85 Caffeine Injected Drives: 13 Ram - 05 Widebody 1050rwhp Vette Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Woodstock, Ga Posts: 1,033	I'd get it tuned.

08-15-2011, 09:04 PM	#10
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,746 View My Garage	Thanks for the input. Tune after intake will be done. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

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