Catch Can and CAI with oiled filter? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Albertog · 12-18-2011, 01:03 PM

Hello Everyone,

I have an RX Catch can (thanks Tracy) that's been working great and I am also considering buying a CAI but still unsure which one to get. Anyway, reading about the purpose of each of these two devices I thought of this:

Is it contradictory to install a CAI that uses an oiled filtration system when one already have a Catch Can?

I am not a mechanic but a very curious person

Thanks in advance for your advise,

Albertog

Rage · 12-18-2011, 01:22 PM

Nope, I have the same setup. They are 2 completely different animals my friend. One cleans air coming in( the light mist of oil on the filter never makes it into the engine), other takes oil out of PCV system.

Albertog · 12-18-2011, 01:31 PM

Rage, thanks

May I ask, do you also have a breather installed?

Rage · 12-18-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Albertog

Rage, thanks

May I ask, do you also have a breather installed?

No, breathers are not advisable unless you are going high HP and FI. We run a closed PCV system, and a breather would nullify this system, from what I have read anyway

bowtie98607 · 12-18-2011, 02:12 PM

The optional breather is for wide open throttle.

spyderbuddy · 12-18-2011, 02:22 PM

I have the Vararam intake and RX Catch can. I got the breather so i could get ride of the Tube that went from the air cleaner to valve cover.

SC2150 · 12-18-2011, 02:32 PM

Except the RX breather kit. It has a flow controlling checkvalve integrated into it calibrated for the V6 or the V8 (different for each) and retains the closed system but deletes the point of oil ingestion from the clean side. You guys ARE correct with any other breather as they are just wide open and cause tuning issues with all the unmetered air.

Albertog · 12-18-2011, 02:42 PM

Hello Tracy,

It's been 5 months approx. since I installed the RX Catch Can and Breather combo

Question: Does the breather allows oil vapors to escape and is it considered a normal function? I ask this because I notice greasy stuff on some of the areas of my engine bay such as the plastic engine cover

SC2150 · 12-18-2011, 02:56 PM

A very small amount may as with other areas on your engine but as a rule no. Take your cap/breather off and try and blow through it (like fumes would vent). If you can there is an issue, if not all is well.

spyderbuddy · 12-18-2011, 02:58 PM

Hi Tracy, Love my new Catch Can. Looks great also.

Albertog · 12-18-2011, 03:03 PM

Yes Tracy, is not that much greasy stuff but I'll do that test right now

Since you are online now; can I ask you if you know a good shop here in Houston that you can recomend to take my car for a good tuning? and Also what brand of CAI would you recomend?

Many Thanks

SC2150 · 12-18-2011, 03:18 PM

I like the CAI industries....(PM for pricing) but several others do well also.

Your LLT correct? Vinces Triefecta is easy to do yourself and the $300 sale right now is super inexpensive.

Apex Motorsports · 12-18-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albertog

Hello Everyone,

I have an RX Catch can (thanks Tracy) that's been working great and I am also considering buying a CAI but still unsure which one to get. Anyway, reading about the purpose of each of these two devices I thought of this:

Is it contradictory to install a CAI that uses an oiled filtration system when one already have a Catch Can?

I am not a mechanic but a very curious person

Thanks in advance for your advise,

Albertog

Your questions have been more or less answered already but here are a couple of articles from our blog with a little more info on those topics.

The “Catch Can” Explained

Choosing a Dry or Oiled Media Filter for Your Vehicle

Albertog · 12-18-2011, 03:32 PM

All right, I did the test and everything seems perfect, I did not feel any air thru the outside of the breather

Thanks for your advise on the CAI, that's the one I was considering but then I read on the specs it uses an oiled filter and that's why I posted this thread

Regarding the tunning, my car is L99, 2SS/RS and I thought you may have some friends around the Houston area that owns trustable tuning shops; so far I have tried 2 shops with no luck (one of them did not even returned my call back)

12-18-2011, 01:03 PM	#1
Albertog Drives: 2011/ 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 75 View My Garage	Catch Can and CAI with oiled filter? Hello Everyone, I have an RX Catch can (thanks Tracy) that's been working great and I am also considering buying a CAI but still unsure which one to get. Anyway, reading about the purpose of each of these two devices I thought of this: Is it contradictory to install a CAI that uses an oiled filtration system when one already have a Catch Can? I am not a mechanic but a very curious person Thanks in advance for your advise, Albertog

12-18-2011, 01:22 PM	#2
Rage TRI-COUNTY CAMARO... FTW! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Cyber Grey Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,200 View My Garage	Nope, I have the same setup. They are 2 completely different animals my friend. One cleans air coming in( the light mist of oil on the filter never makes it into the engine), other takes oil out of PCV system. __________________ CAI inc. cold air intake, LG G6x3 cam, Patriot Gold Extreme Dual springs, Titanium retainers and locks, LG SuperPro 1 7/8 Long Tube headers with full 3" exhaust, DynoMax VT mufflers, SLP 4" tips, Moroso catch can, Race Ready electronic exhaust cut outs, Full painted Razzi body kit, Headlight Armor Smoke taillight and marker blackouts, T-Rex aluminum upper and lower grille, Polished aluminum front and rear bowties. Professionally installed and Dyno Tuned by HorsePower Sales, Pompano Beach FL.

12-18-2011, 02:22 PM	#6
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,474 View My Garage	I have the Vararam intake and RX Catch can. I got the breather so i could get ride of the Tube that went from the air cleaner to valve cover. __________________ 2024 Camaro/Panther Emblem,Hot Wheels Emblems, Hot Wheels Door Sills and Floor Mats, Morimoto Fog Lights, PCP Hideaway Headlight Covers, BBK Headers & High Flow Cats, ZL1 Add-ons Wicker Bill, TL1/ZL1 Hood Insert, Gen5 DIY Frameless Mirror, ABL Dash Lighting & My link Navigation, Blacked out Rear Bowtie, all Sylvania led Turn Signals, Ceramic Window Tint By Nicks, MBRP Exhaust tips, GEN5 DIY Virginia Legal DRL Harness, Painted Brake Calipers, Vittesse Throttle Controller & Paddle Shifter Heritage Grill, Manual Shifter Boot, CNC Throttle Body, Trifecta Tune, Trunk Black out and Side Grills,

12-18-2011, 02:58 PM	#10
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,474 View My Garage	Hi Tracy, Love my new Catch Can. Looks great also. __________________ 2024 Camaro/Panther Emblem,Hot Wheels Emblems, Hot Wheels Door Sills and Floor Mats, Morimoto Fog Lights, PCP Hideaway Headlight Covers, BBK Headers & High Flow Cats, ZL1 Add-ons Wicker Bill, TL1/ZL1 Hood Insert, Gen5 DIY Frameless Mirror, ABL Dash Lighting & My link Navigation, Blacked out Rear Bowtie, all Sylvania led Turn Signals, Ceramic Window Tint By Nicks, MBRP Exhaust tips, GEN5 DIY Virginia Legal DRL Harness, Painted Brake Calipers, Vittesse Throttle Controller & Paddle Shifter Heritage Grill, Manual Shifter Boot, CNC Throttle Body, Trifecta Tune, Trunk Black out and Side Grills,

12-18-2011, 01:31 PM	#3
Albertog Drives: 2011/ 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 75 View My Garage	Rage, thanks May I ask, do you also have a breather installed?

12-18-2011, 02:12 PM	#5
bowtie98607 Drives: 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Vancouver, Washington Posts: 222 View My Garage	The optional breather is for wide open throttle.

12-18-2011, 02:32 PM	#7
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Except the RX breather kit. It has a flow controlling checkvalve integrated into it calibrated for the V6 or the V8 (different for each) and retains the closed system but deletes the point of oil ingestion from the clean side. You guys ARE correct with any other breather as they are just wide open and cause tuning issues with all the unmetered air.

12-18-2011, 02:42 PM	#8
Albertog Drives: 2011/ 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 75 View My Garage	Hello Tracy, It's been 5 months approx. since I installed the RX Catch Can and Breather combo Question: Does the breather allows oil vapors to escape and is it considered a normal function? I ask this because I notice greasy stuff on some of the areas of my engine bay such as the plastic engine cover

12-18-2011, 02:56 PM	#9
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	A very small amount may as with other areas on your engine but as a rule no. Take your cap/breather off and try and blow through it (like fumes would vent). If you can there is an issue, if not all is well.

12-18-2011, 03:03 PM	#11
Albertog Drives: 2011/ 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 75 View My Garage	Yes Tracy, is not that much greasy stuff but I'll do that test right now Since you are online now; can I ask you if you know a good shop here in Houston that you can recomend to take my car for a good tuning? and Also what brand of CAI would you recomend? Many Thanks

12-18-2011, 03:18 PM	#12
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	I like the CAI industries....(PM for pricing) but several others do well also. Your LLT correct? Vinces Triefecta is easy to do yourself and the $300 sale right now is super inexpensive.

12-18-2011, 03:32 PM	#14
Albertog Drives: 2011/ 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 75 View My Garage	All right, I did the test and everything seems perfect, I did not feel any air thru the outside of the breather Thanks for your advise on the CAI, that's the one I was considering but then I read on the specs it uses an oiled filter and that's why I posted this thread Regarding the tunning, my car is L99, 2SS/RS and I thought you may have some friends around the Houston area that owns trustable tuning shops; so far I have tried 2 shops with no luck (one of them did not even returned my call back)