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Interlux · 05-09-2012, 07:04 PM

Two week old car (not even) - front ground effects were already installed and are now losing adhesion.

Improper install? Likely that adhesion on other pieces will begin to fail?

Obviously I'm bringing it back to the dealer - is there another more permanent method of install if I don't plan on ever removing them that I can suggest? Tape on a car is just asking for trouble and here's why..

Thanks for any help everyone.

OHIOSS · 05-09-2012, 07:09 PM

I wanted to buy a Razzi ground effect package until I read that it had to be glued to the car. This was a huge turn off for the exact reason that you are experiencing now.

Russ

camslambam · 05-09-2012, 07:11 PM

Welcome to GM GFX. It's why I took off the front GFX. Only have the sides and rear.

VanquisherSS · 05-09-2012, 07:13 PM

Mine started to come apart too, I bought a new bumper. I hear the new ones are mounted with screws?

Interlux · 05-09-2012, 07:14 PM

This is a 2012 - unless you mean 2013's can't get much more new.

So you're not running fronts anymore either Vanquish?

scruffyluv · 05-09-2012, 07:15 PM

my razzi came with screws and two way tape type stuff... it still doesnt fit right and we need to have it completely re-installed now. Will be a project hub will do while I am off sailing the 7 seas.

FEN · 05-09-2012, 07:19 PM

I only have experience with the SS factory GFX which has a different front splitter....On the SS there are metal brackets in that location which are riveted to the front fascia and the splitter mounts to them. There are also 4 more rivets along the front. I would say its a bad install. The first time the dealer installed mine they did not use the four front rivets and my splitter folded under the car on the interstate and had to be replaced.

Interlux · 05-09-2012, 07:21 PM

I'm going to go take a look for any missed bracket in that area - if not then it sounds like the tape is the designed install.

Nobody that has experienced this failure has come up with a permanent solution besides removing the front piece?

FEN · 05-09-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interlux

I'm going to go take a look for any missed bracket in that area - if not then it sounds like the tape is the designed install.

Nobody that has experienced this failure has come up with a permanent solution besides removing the front piece?

Yes, there is a permanent solution....The dealer needs to mount it properly. If mounted correctly with ALL the supplied brackets/rivets they will not do this.

Interlux · 05-09-2012, 07:31 PM

I checked and it doesn't seem like there is a bracket in this area - I guess I misunderstood your message and thought it would be there and just wasn't used. This was a piece of the kit itself?

The install sheet I found - it seems like the brackets it mentions are mounted - but they aren't enough to keep the kit from separating from the bumper itself. I should note mine does have a bracket horizontal to the ground at the bottom of the kit. I was hoping there'd be more that they missed but it doesn't seem that way.

FEN · 05-09-2012, 07:40 PM

On the SS front splitter there is a rectangular mounting plate on each side that is attached to the fascia with two rivets. In addition to the tape there are also four rivets along the front.......but keep in mind that the V6 splitter is slightly different and may not use the same hardware. The bottom line is that when mounted properly with all the included hardware they will NOT do this.

Interlux · 05-09-2012, 07:46 PM

Thanks for the help Fen - I can't see behind the splitter in my driveway - but regardless it's failing around the edges not the center (yet). I took a peek and it looks like there's bumper paint damage at one point too so taking it off isn't an option unless I want them to repaint it.

FEN · 05-09-2012, 07:53 PM

Here is a thread related to the SS models where you can see the side mounts i mention.....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...x+instructions

PDF download in first post for complete install.

Interlux · 05-09-2012, 08:02 PM

It almost seems like there should be a rivett or two on each side here that isn't there from these instructions.

Thanks for this post - I'm printing this out to bring with me.

05-09-2012, 07:04 PM	#1
Interlux Drives: 2012 2LT/RS - SW/IOM Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dover, NJ Posts: 330	Failing Ground Effect Adhesion Two week old car (not even) - front ground effects were already installed and are now losing adhesion. Improper install? Likely that adhesion on other pieces will begin to fail? Obviously I'm bringing it back to the dealer - is there another more permanent method of install if I don't plan on ever removing them that I can suggest? Tape on a car is just asking for trouble and here's why.. Thanks for any help everyone. Attached Images

05-09-2012, 07:19 PM	#7
FEN Drives: BLACK 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,092	I only have experience with the SS factory GFX which has a different front splitter....On the SS there are metal brackets in that location which are riveted to the front fascia and the splitter mounts to them. There are also 4 more rivets along the front. I would say its a bad install. The first time the dealer installed mine they did not use the four front rivets and my splitter folded under the car on the interstate and had to be replaced. __________________ CCW polished 505a's Front 20x10 w/275/40/20's Rear 20x11.5 w/305/35/20's Eibach 1" Pro Spring Kit Factory GFX MPD1 spoiler painted bowties 15% tint

05-09-2012, 07:40 PM	#11
FEN Drives: BLACK 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,092	On the SS front splitter there is a rectangular mounting plate on each side that is attached to the fascia with two rivets. In addition to the tape there are also four rivets along the front.......but keep in mind that the V6 splitter is slightly different and may not use the same hardware. The bottom line is that when mounted properly with all the included hardware they will NOT do this. __________________ CCW polished 505a's Front 20x10 w/275/40/20's Rear 20x11.5 w/305/35/20's Eibach 1" Pro Spring Kit Factory GFX MPD1 spoiler painted bowties 15% tint

05-09-2012, 07:53 PM	#13
FEN Drives: BLACK 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,092	Here is a thread related to the SS models where you can see the side mounts i mention..... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...x+instructions PDF download in first post for complete install. __________________ CCW polished 505a's Front 20x10 w/275/40/20's Rear 20x11.5 w/305/35/20's Eibach 1" Pro Spring Kit Factory GFX MPD1 spoiler painted bowties 15% tint

05-09-2012, 07:09 PM	#2
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	I wanted to buy a Razzi ground effect package until I read that it had to be glued to the car. This was a huge turn off for the exact reason that you are experiencing now. Russ

05-09-2012, 07:11 PM	#3
camslambam Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS, 06 SRT10 Ram Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: C. America Posts: 1,658	Welcome to GM GFX. It's why I took off the front GFX. Only have the sides and rear.

05-09-2012, 07:13 PM	#4
VanquisherSS Hasbin of Stock Bottom HP Drives: CTS-V Coupe, 04 TT Viper Join Date: May 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,561 View My Garage	Mine started to come apart too, I bought a new bumper. I hear the new ones are mounted with screws?

05-09-2012, 07:14 PM	#5
Interlux Drives: 2012 2LT/RS - SW/IOM Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dover, NJ Posts: 330	This is a 2012 - unless you mean 2013's can't get much more new. So you're not running fronts anymore either Vanquish?

05-09-2012, 07:15 PM	#6
scruffyluv CB5thGEN Drives: 2013 2SS/RS BRM 1LE, 05 Trailblazer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: VA Beach Posts: 948 View My Garage	my razzi came with screws and two way tape type stuff... it still doesnt fit right and we need to have it completely re-installed now. Will be a project hub will do while I am off sailing the 7 seas.

05-09-2012, 07:21 PM	#8
Interlux Drives: 2012 2LT/RS - SW/IOM Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dover, NJ Posts: 330	I'm going to go take a look for any missed bracket in that area - if not then it sounds like the tape is the designed install. Nobody that has experienced this failure has come up with a permanent solution besides removing the front piece?

05-09-2012, 07:31 PM	#10
Interlux Drives: 2012 2LT/RS - SW/IOM Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dover, NJ Posts: 330	I checked and it doesn't seem like there is a bracket in this area - I guess I misunderstood your message and thought it would be there and just wasn't used. This was a piece of the kit itself? The install sheet I found - it seems like the brackets it mentions are mounted - but they aren't enough to keep the kit from separating from the bumper itself. I should note mine does have a bracket horizontal to the ground at the bottom of the kit. I was hoping there'd be more that they missed but it doesn't seem that way.

05-09-2012, 07:46 PM	#12
Interlux Drives: 2012 2LT/RS - SW/IOM Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dover, NJ Posts: 330	Thanks for the help Fen - I can't see behind the splitter in my driveway - but regardless it's failing around the edges not the center (yet). I took a peek and it looks like there's bumper paint damage at one point too so taking it off isn't an option unless I want them to repaint it.

05-09-2012, 08:02 PM	#14
Interlux Drives: 2012 2LT/RS - SW/IOM Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dover, NJ Posts: 330	It almost seems like there should be a rivett or two on each side here that isn't there from these instructions. Thanks for this post - I'm printing this out to bring with me.