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Godsplumber · 09-24-2012, 04:17 AM

I have already done the Araid intake, and dyno tune on my 2012 ZL1. So I'm wondering what I should do next. Just bolt ons. Should I do the upper pulley, and if so which one. Or headers and high flow cats, if so which ones. Or both or what. Pulley sound cheap an easy, so maybe, that and something else. I would like this to end up being approx 800hp when done. Any input?

rberns · 09-24-2012, 04:33 AM

Headers and hfc with ceramic coating. maybe look into American Racing Headers or Stainless Works. If you're going to 800 hp, you probably want to go with 2 inch primaries.

VADER SS L99 · 09-24-2012, 05:21 AM

definitly do a cooling mod if you do a pulley. Do either the interchiller or what ever its called or do a larger heat exchanger with a larger resevior. The supercharger cooling on the zl1 doesnt even work well on stock cars. Add a pulley to the equation and it gets worse. Some kooks lt headers with no cats would also be a nice add on and remember to re tune.

StL Lingenfelter · 09-24-2012, 05:59 AM

Great suggestions above! Best bang for the buck is the exhaust, as noted. I'm running hi-flow catted American Racing Headers and a Borla cat-back. The changed intake and exhaust will provide a noted perfomance improvement and better sound! At that point you may want to consider a professional tune if you have local access to a reputable performance shop.

To get to 800HP is no small task - you'll require a complete project from the bottom up. Lingenfelter did mine to get 698 RWHP which is about 810 at the crank (given that manual transmissions lose about 13-15% power per conventional wisdom) and it took them 7 months to build! So.... this journey will be long, but patience will pay off -- you are off to a great start. --Rick

Godsplumber · 09-24-2012, 12:01 PM

Let me add that, I am in Arizona, and would also appreciate any help to locate a good local performance shop to help me here.

Bo White · 09-24-2012, 01:17 PM

I would try to take full advantage of the boost and airflow you have now.
Full lengths would be my next step.

litle88 · 09-24-2012, 01:25 PM

First remember that you do not have a forged motor ala Zr1 and your TVS blower is 1900. If you are looking for 800, you'll need a 2300 with some ported heads, cam, long tubes ( no cats please), bigger inter cooler, bigger reservoir and tuned and you'll be closer but a ticking time bomb lol.

For now I'd get an LPE smaller puller kit, bigger inter cooler , bigger reservoir, bigger inter cooler pump from getTorq, some long tubes and a cam. You'll be in the 650's but still a ticking time bomb lol. Just my .2

Godsplumber · 09-24-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

First remember that you do not have a forged motor ala Zr1 and your TVS blower is 1900. If you are looking for 800, you'll need a 2300 with some ported heads, cam, long tubes ( no cats please), bigger inter cooler, bigger reservoir and tuned and you'll be closer but a ticking time bomb lol.

For now I'd get an LPE smaller puller kit, bigger inter cooler , bigger reservoir, bigger inter cooler pump from getTorq, some long tubes and a cam. You'll be in the 650's but still a ticking time bomb lol. Just my .2

By ticking time bomb, you are saying that the engine can not handle the power? or....? Long tubes without cats... I need it to pass Az smog testing.

Godsplumber · 09-24-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

I would try to take full advantage of the boost and airflow you have now.
Full lengths would be my next step.

Do you mean long tube headers??

litle88 · 09-24-2012, 03:42 PM

Not saying it can't handle it but the only thing helping the engine is the fact that you have oil squirters that cool off the back of the hyperutectic pistons (which aren't forged) but ate at 9-1 compression. The rods are still powdered metal (no h-beams there). I would just keep it at around 600-650 RWHP. 800+ you better get that turd forged and stroked Fwiw.

Just my .2

Cam, headers, pulley and inter cooler mods is all I'd do.

Godsplumber · 09-24-2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88

Cam, headers, pulley and inter cooler mods is all I'd do.

Is that enough to make my car lift the front end off the ground at the track, I want to do a wheelie like the Copo, lol.

Godsplumber · 09-24-2012, 04:06 PM

Also, Moderator, i think i posted this in the wrong place, it should be posted in ZL1 specific forum, can you move it please.

thepirate · 09-24-2012, 05:33 PM

the more i read on this crack addicting website, the more i realize i know nothing about cars...

:bangdesk:

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litle88 · 09-24-2012, 05:55 PM

OP are you manual or automatic ?

Also it's hard to yank the fronts with an independent rearend compared to a live axle.
The copo is at another level lol it also doesn't weigh as much a Zl1 lol

Pirate lol it does take a while so just let it soak in for a few months and you'll have a better understanding about your car lol.

09-24-2012, 04:17 AM	#1
Godsplumber Drives: 2012 ZL1,Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 400 View My Garage	Ready for my next performance mod. Any suggestions? I have already done the Araid intake, and dyno tune on my 2012 ZL1. So I'm wondering what I should do next. Just bolt ons. Should I do the upper pulley, and if so which one. Or headers and high flow cats, if so which ones. Or both or what. Pulley sound cheap an easy, so maybe, that and something else. I would like this to end up being approx 800hp when done. Any input? __________________ Build thread located at: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=1#post5732710

09-24-2012, 04:33 AM	#2
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	Headers and hfc with ceramic coating. maybe look into American Racing Headers or Stainless Works. If you're going to 800 hp, you probably want to go with 2 inch primaries. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

09-24-2012, 05:21 AM	#3
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	definitly do a cooling mod if you do a pulley. Do either the interchiller or what ever its called or do a larger heat exchanger with a larger resevior. The supercharger cooling on the zl1 doesnt even work well on stock cars. Add a pulley to the equation and it gets worse. Some kooks lt headers with no cats would also be a nice add on and remember to re tune. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

09-24-2012, 05:59 AM	#4
StL Lingenfelter Drives: 2010 Camaro SS - Lingenfelter LS7 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Chesterfield, MO Posts: 38	Great suggestions above! Best bang for the buck is the exhaust, as noted. I'm running hi-flow catted American Racing Headers and a Borla cat-back. The changed intake and exhaust will provide a noted perfomance improvement and better sound! At that point you may want to consider a professional tune if you have local access to a reputable performance shop. To get to 800HP is no small task - you'll require a complete project from the bottom up. Lingenfelter did mine to get 698 RWHP which is about 810 at the crank (given that manual transmissions lose about 13-15% power per conventional wisdom) and it took them 7 months to build! So.... this journey will be long, but patience will pay off -- you are off to a great start. --Rick __________________

09-24-2012, 12:01 PM	#5
Godsplumber Drives: 2012 ZL1,Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 400 View My Garage	Let me add that, I am in Arizona, and would also appreciate any help to locate a good local performance shop to help me here. __________________ Build thread located at: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=1#post5732710

09-24-2012, 01:17 PM	#6
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,090	I would try to take full advantage of the boost and airflow you have now. Full lengths would be my next step. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

09-24-2012, 01:25 PM	#7
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	First remember that you do not have a forged motor ala Zr1 and your TVS blower is 1900. If you are looking for 800, you'll need a 2300 with some ported heads, cam, long tubes ( no cats please), bigger inter cooler, bigger reservoir and tuned and you'll be closer but a ticking time bomb lol. For now I'd get an LPE smaller puller kit, bigger inter cooler , bigger reservoir, bigger inter cooler pump from getTorq, some long tubes and a cam. You'll be in the 650's but still a ticking time bomb lol. Just my .2 __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

09-24-2012, 03:42 PM	#10
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Not saying it can't handle it but the only thing helping the engine is the fact that you have oil squirters that cool off the back of the hyperutectic pistons (which aren't forged) but ate at 9-1 compression. The rods are still powdered metal (no h-beams there). I would just keep it at around 600-650 RWHP. 800+ you better get that turd forged and stroked Fwiw. Just my .2 Cam, headers, pulley and inter cooler mods is all I'd do. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

09-24-2012, 04:06 PM	#12
Godsplumber Drives: 2012 ZL1,Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 400 View My Garage	Also, Moderator, i think i posted this in the wrong place, it should be posted in ZL1 specific forum, can you move it please.

09-24-2012, 05:33 PM	#13
thepirate Drives: 2013 2SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 372	the more i read on this crack addicting website, the more i realize i know nothing about cars... :bangdesk: continue please..... __________________

09-24-2012, 05:55 PM	#14
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	OP are you manual or automatic ? Also it's hard to yank the fronts with an independent rearend compared to a live axle. The copo is at another level lol it also doesn't weigh as much a Zl1 lol Pirate lol it does take a while so just let it soak in for a few months and you'll have a better understanding about your car lol. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.