Manual shifting...

[Visago]

Ok question for you guys.....when you shift do you depress the clutch all the way to the floor or part of the way to change gears. I find if I press mine about 1/2 way I can shift very quick and smooth with zero "head jerk" and I'm not grinding any gears. My concern is if the clutch is fully disengaged and am I prematurely wearing out the clutch in doing this. Did a google search and am finding mixed answers on this. Some say if you partially depress the clutch and can change gears smoothly that it has to be fully disengaged and it will not hurt anything. Others are of the school that the clutch pedal has to be fully depressed to the floor to be sure it's fully disengaged. Def don't want to do anything that's going to prematurely wear it out as I'm sure it's pretty expensive to replace it. Had several standards so I'm not a noob but really the first time I've tried this. Opinions....

[CoV]

I always go all the way to the floor when using the clutch on any manual vehicle.

[Frid]

Personal preference. I do the same as your and only push it in til it is disengaged and then shift. And I agree that it creates little to no head jerk doing so.

[gajagfan]

Go only as far as you need to to change gears. All the way to the floor when at the red light.....unless it is about to change to green!

[Goober]

When shifting I only push in clutch to the sweet spot - never to the floor. At red light I usually put in neutral until right before the light changes. But as the poster above me stated, if stopped and in gear then clutch to the floor.

[SNK]

I might try this. When I shift I usually go all of the way to the floor but it doesn't stay there. I basically push the clutch until it just taps the floor meanwhile I change gears. Ill have to try only going half way or wherever the "sweet spot" is.

[tramtwo]

never really understood why the peddle travels so much

[jethrobandit]

I have tried this so many times to only push the peddle down half way, but my muscle memory won't let me do it. Even when I focus on it, my foot pushes it all the way to the floor.

[jd10013]

yes, it wears the clutch. how much is a matter of debate.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by jd10013

yes, it wears the clutch. how much is a matter of debate.

Don't agree. The pedal needs to be depressed as far as necessary to disengage the clutch from the flywheel. This allows the load to be off the transmission gears, and easy shifting to occur. The pedal does not need to be all the way to the floor for the clutch to be disengaged. You are causing no harm to the system by only pushing the clutch to the point of disengagement opposed to all the way to the floor. Now, every time you clutch the vehicle, for any reason, you are putting wear into the clutch as it slips apart and the slips back together, but no more by 1/2 clutching opposed to clutching to the floor, as long as the clutch is disengaged.

[strych9]

Originally Posted by jd10013

yes, it wears the clutch. how much is a matter of debate.

FALSE. If anything, it would wear the synchros in the transmission faster, IF the clutch wasn't fully disengaged. However, as others have said, there would be resistance in the shifter if the clutch wasn't disengaging.

[rock1962]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

Don't agree. The pedal needs to be depressed as far as necessary to disengage the clutch from the flywheel. This allows the load to be off the transmission gears, and easy shifting to occur. The pedal does not need to be all the way to the floor for the clutch to be disengaged. You are causing no harm to the system by only pushing the clutch to the point of disengagement opposed to all the way to the floor. Now, every time you clutch the vehicle, for any reason, you are putting wear into the clutch as it slips apart and the slips back together, but no more by 1/2 clutching opposed to clutching to the floor, as long as the clutch is disengaged.

I agree with this been doing this all the time I have been driving and it has been a long time.

[zackex]

Shifting is not about just the clutch. It also depends on what you do with the throttle, there is no wear on the clutch if it is disengaged cleanly and engaged while the RPM is matched perfectly. A truck transmission can and often is shifted both up and down with no clutch by using proper throttle control. If you are partially depressing the clutch and using proper throttle you may not know it is still engaged.

[Mouse6.2]

Originally Posted by zackex

Shifting is not about just the clutch. It also depends on what you do with the throttle, there is no wear on the clutch if it is disengaged cleanly and engaged while the RPM is matched perfectly. A truck transmission can and often is shifted both up and down with no clutch by using proper throttle control. If you are partially depressing the clutch and using proper throttle you may not know it is still engaged.

I've shifted already with no clutch. Just like in all my other standard transmission vehicles. I don't do it all the time but it can be done. I've up shifted as well as down shifted.