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Nighthawk89 · 01-18-2014, 11:31 PM

I have had the stock pirelli's 3 times now and I'm thinking about trying out a different brand for longer tread life? Ive heard the stock are the highly recommend but I'm just wondering if anyone has had good luck with another pair?

Also, If i decide to go with the pirelli's again have you found them at a good price i should keep in mind?

blake2010ss · 01-19-2014, 01:08 AM

There are a few options to look at on www.discounttiredirect.com. You can search by tire size (ie 275/40/20 for stock) and view tires of that size and just look for tires with a higher utqg rating. The higher the number the longer they last usually.

Norm Peterson · 01-19-2014, 11:07 AM

You manage to go through three sets of rears in three years? How many miles is that?

And what kind of driving?

You can look for a higher treadwear rating, but be careful not to put too much emphasis on tread life at the expense of braking and cornering grip.

Tire Rack for sure has their own test results for many tires and user surveys for most of the tires they sell.

For a performance car I'll always recommend buying as much tire performance as you can afford (even stretching a bit here if possible) and let things like tread life be the tie-breakers among tires with similar performance. About once per set of tires I find myself pretty damn glad for having chosen performance above the other considerations.

Norm

Camero5 · 01-19-2014, 12:08 PM

I traded the stock OEMs for the Nitto Invo which have lasted much longer than the Pirellis and didn't have to sacrifice on performance. Another tire I hear people talk about are the vredesteins which have a lot of good reviews on the Camaro and vette forums. European brand.

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fldrummer · 01-19-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Camero5

I traded the stock OEMs for the Nitto Invo which have lasted much longer than the Pirellis and didn't have to sacrifice on performance. Another tire I hear people talk about are the vredesteins which have a lot of good reviews on the Camaro and vette forums. European brand.

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I tried Invos once--never saw tread disappear so fast from just normal driving! If you want tread life, try Continental Extreme Contact DWS--great tire but pricey. Best value for price and tread life I've found are Nexen Roadian HP. 'Not the best traction, but reliable. I get mine from onlinetires.com.

Nighthawk89 · 01-19-2014, 01:21 PM

That first number in the utqg rating refers to what exactly? I notice on tire rack all the "best selling tires" have greater or lower scores it seems. I don't do much cornering but my first set I was stupid and got into it a little too much after I slapped some mods on. These last pair have lasted me a good while but I figure it worth trying a different brand.

Norm Peterson · 01-19-2014, 05:56 PM

The first number is a rough indication of how many miles you might expect to get out of a tire in average, everyday, normal driving.

But there is a fair implication that a high treadwear rated tire is typically not as grippy as a low treadwear rated tire. Tires are something of an engineering compromise among many different criteria, and to get a little more of one you typically give up a little somewhere else.

Sometimes a little marketing gets involved at the low treadwear end if a mfr suspects if he advertises a true 200TW tire at 200TW, he will lose sales to the mfrs who are advertising their 200TW tires at, say, 140. Here is one such instance, and the "rerate" to 200 (with no changes in the tire) is to suit there being more competition events now that require 200TW-rated tires. It is legal to advertise a lower TW rating than actual, but TW numbers may not overstate the tread life. Of course some will "game" that kind of rule if there is benefit in doing so.

FWIW, you ought to be able to get 10,000 - 12,500 miles per 100 treadwear in even fairly enthusiastic street driving if you maintain inflation pressures and alignment that suits that driving and don't get into wheelspin except truly unintentionally. Involvement in autocross, drag racing, or road course track time will of course reduce that estimate.

Norm

01-18-2014, 11:31 PM	#1
Nighthawk89 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2Ss M6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,013	Best tires for the Rear end? I have had the stock pirelli's 3 times now and I'm thinking about trying out a different brand for longer tread life? Ive heard the stock are the highly recommend but I'm just wondering if anyone has had good luck with another pair? Also, If i decide to go with the pirelli's again have you found them at a good price i should keep in mind?

01-19-2014, 01:08 AM	#2
blake2010ss Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stone mountain, GA Posts: 2,228	There are a few options to look at on www.discounttiredirect.com. You can search by tire size (ie 275/40/20 for stock) and view tires of that size and just look for tires with a higher utqg rating. The higher the number the longer they last usually. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 1093/1066 416, AGP 6262, E85, Cam

01-19-2014, 12:08 PM	#4
Camero5 Hide! My wife's coming! Drives: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Las Colinas, TX Posts: 1,442 View My Garage	I traded the stock OEMs for the Nitto Invo which have lasted much longer than the Pirellis and didn't have to sacrifice on performance. Another tire I hear people talk about are the vredesteins which have a lot of good reviews on the Camaro and vette forums. European brand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible CRT - 630 RWHP / 620 RWTQ - ADM Performance Built/Tuned - ZL-700 Package - LS9 CAM - Lingenfelter CNC Ported Heads - Stainless Power Headers

01-19-2014, 11:07 AM	#3
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	You manage to go through three sets of rears in three years? How many miles is that? And what kind of driving? You can look for a higher treadwear rating, but be careful not to put too much emphasis on tread life at the expense of braking and cornering grip. Tire Rack for sure has their own test results for many tires and user surveys for most of the tires they sell. For a performance car I'll always recommend buying as much tire performance as you can afford (even stretching a bit here if possible) and let things like tread life be the tie-breakers among tires with similar performance. About once per set of tires I find myself pretty damn glad for having chosen performance above the other considerations. Norm

01-19-2014, 01:21 PM	#6
Nighthawk89 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2Ss M6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,013	That first number in the utqg rating refers to what exactly? I notice on tire rack all the "best selling tires" have greater or lower scores it seems. I don't do much cornering but my first set I was stupid and got into it a little too much after I slapped some mods on. These last pair have lasted me a good while but I figure it worth trying a different brand.

01-19-2014, 05:56 PM	#7
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	The first number is a rough indication of how many miles you might expect to get out of a tire in average, everyday, normal driving. But there is a fair implication that a high treadwear rated tire is typically not as grippy as a low treadwear rated tire. Tires are something of an engineering compromise among many different criteria, and to get a little more of one you typically give up a little somewhere else. Sometimes a little marketing gets involved at the low treadwear end if a mfr suspects if he advertises a true 200TW tire at 200TW, he will lose sales to the mfrs who are advertising their 200TW tires at, say, 140. Here is one such instance, and the "rerate" to 200 (with no changes in the tire) is to suit there being more competition events now that require 200TW-rated tires. It is legal to advertise a lower TW rating than actual, but TW numbers may not overstate the tread life. Of course some will "game" that kind of rule if there is benefit in doing so. FWIW, you ought to be able to get 10,000 - 12,500 miles per 100 treadwear in even fairly enthusiastic street driving if you maintain inflation pressures and alignment that suits that driving and don't get into wheelspin except truly unintentionally. Involvement in autocross, drag racing, or road course track time will of course reduce that estimate. Norm