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MikeNoMaro
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COMPARISON TESTS AutoBild Sportscars - BMW M4 DKG Coupé vs Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
This article came in 10 days ago and although the Z/28 lapped Sachsenring 2.5 seconds faster than the BMW M4 ,the German still consisder the M4 the winner in this head to head comparaison.
http://www.germancarforum.com/commun...ro-z-28.51612/ Notice: the cost of the Z/28 is $98,000 Euro ($118,355.usd) compare to the $89Keuro for the M4. Read the comments from the bloggers, always the same excuses: It's because of the Trofeo R tires! Check out the lap times list at Sachsenring : http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/sachsenring.html I'm a bit desapointed in the lap time... I hope that MT laguna Seca time will tel another story against the Porsche 911 Turbo S (991)...
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MikeNoMaro
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Since today we have the lap times from randy Pobst with the Porsche Turbo S at 1:35.62
and the BMW M4 also at 1:39.69 Comparing times at Sachsenring, I'm thinking that the Z/28 with not go under the 1:36.. at Laguna Seca :(
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911 Turbo S
More power, Dual clutch auto, lesser weight, $183k I hope the z28 clocks a faster time! |
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Here's the lap of the Porsche 911 Turbo S at Sachsenring, Germany The Camaro lapped it 2.7second slower. The only thing that might bring the Z/28 in front of the Porsche is the fact that all these times were done by car journalist... not a hot shoe driver like Pobst.
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Essentially, they dinged the Z/28 because it makes a very bad Daily Driver in Germany. Too funny; that's like dinging a smartcar because it's slower than a Top Fuel dragster in the 1/4 mile...
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Sachsenring and Laguna Seca are comparable tracks... pretty close in length and number of turns minus the Corkscrew.
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Runs with scissors...
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Bet that 911 Turbo S pulls like a freight train up the hill at Laguna. Bet the Z/28 carries more entry and exit speed in the corners, though...
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MikeNoMaro
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Z/28 : still to come...
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![]() Thanks for the info! Although I kinda wish it was translated!! |
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MikeNoMaro
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Me too... I can't copy the text to bring it in google translator...anyone can do it?
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Runs with scissors...
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I tried to do the same but couldn't find a text version. Sadly, my German is rusty enough that I'm not going to try to translate it myself...
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I know German, they called the Z/28 the GT3 for the Marlborough Man.
Sadly my former German countrymen have gone soft and instead of elevating the uncompromising raw track car rendition the Z/28 is; they extolled the comfort virtues of the M4 They did give the Z/28 the highest marks attainable in the cornering dynamics as well as the straight line dynamics (braking, throttle response and control). The Laguna Seca Z/28 vid is up. I am not disappointed since I am sure at the end of this test week, Randy will say that when all the Driver aids are turned off that the Z/28 is what he would like to wheel around race tracks. The turbo cars can not be held on a knife edge without traction control, one needs the linear throttle control a NA motor has. |
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MikeNoMaro
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Well the z/28 lap time came in. 1:37.82!
Himmm...
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