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ttesort1 · 09-30-2014, 08:29 AM

I'm not trying to start a another v6 vs v8 forum fight, I bought a v6 because that's what I could afford at 19 which I am paying for myself. Although I do plan on upgrading once I make a little more and have this payed off, but this is a discussion for another day.

My younger brother is getting a new crate 325 put in his car pretty soon and we plan to take our cars to the local drag strip (1/8 mile). His car (automatic) has upgraded exhaust and headers, also a racing shifter but I think that is it. My question is how well would my car do against his?

Splitter · 09-30-2014, 10:16 AM

Once that 325 is installed you will be seeing nothing but truck bed.

Remember, the Toyota Camry is just .2 slower than our v6 Camaros.

Your car will last a bit longer if you two keep racing them, though. Lol.

gajagfan · 09-30-2014, 10:34 AM

In my opinion, the best chance you have is that the El Camino may have trouble getting traction due to the light rear end. If he gets it to hook just a bit, he wins.

colingordon · 09-30-2014, 10:43 AM

yeah its hard to say in the 1/4 I would say you have it, because he probably has 3 speed auto with 2.73 gears and 325 ci isn't that a big V8. But you dont need more then 3 gears on a 1/8 mile. hard to say only one way to find out

gajagfan · 09-30-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by colingordon

yeah its hard to say in the 1/4 I would say you have it, because he probably has 3 speed auto with 2.73 gears and 325 ci isn't that a big V8. But you dont need more then 3 gears on a 1/8 mile. hard to say only one way to find out

I think 325 is HP, not CI....but I could be wrong.

ttesort1 · 09-30-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gajagfan

I think 325 is HP, not CI....but I could be wrong.

I belive that is correct I'm not sure what other details on the engine just what he told me that it was 325 HP

Evergreen6 · 09-30-2014, 12:01 PM

This is just a guess, but I think the answer is in the transmission. If it's a 3-speed auto, those things are dogs. Foot buried to the carpet, 1st gear covers all the way from a stop to almost 50mph depending on gearing. The question is, does it have enough torque to get out of the hole any quicker than you with a gearing advantage?

That would be a fun run to watch!

ttesort1 · 09-30-2014, 12:05 PM

Just heard from my dad it is a 350 engine with 325HP

colingordon · 09-30-2014, 01:35 PM

El Camino - 325 HP at the crank, 3 speed automatic, 2.73 gearing (most likely)
Camaro 323 HP at the crank, 6 speed automatic, I forget the gearing but 2.73 also??

It would be close but I give Camaro the win, those transmission are dogs and the torque converters such on them and BIG questions is it carb or fuel injected?

TXLS3 · 09-30-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by colingordon

El Camino - 325 HP at the crank, 3 speed automatic, 2.73 gearing (most likely)
Camaro 323 HP at the crank, 6 speed automatic, I forget the gearing but 2.73 also??

It would be close but I give Camaro the win, those transmission are dogs and the torque converters such on them and BIG questions is it carb or fuel injected?

Your not taking into account the el camino has a huge weight advantage.

I just rebuilt a 350.. Bored .30 over Comp cam roller rockers edelbrock 4 barrel carb headers.. I'm expecting about 380hp

ttesort1 · 09-30-2014, 02:29 PM

He has a edelbrock carb, also just remembered he has edelbrock headers on it not sure what ones though

TXLS3 · 09-30-2014, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ttesort1

He has a edelbrock crab, also just remembered he has edelbrock headers on it not sure what ones though

You need to find out more about his build. He's just puting in a crate 350 or is he building it? 2 different animals. A crate or built 350? Because if he's building it a new cam and a machine shop to bore it over he can be at 400hp in a 3,000lb car. Which will murder your v6.

PalmerGA · 09-30-2014, 03:30 PM

A lot of variables here but I think it will be a good run. Due to the lack of weight in his rear end, I'd give you a slight advantage. Hook 'em up quick and you should win (barely).

Evergreen6 · 09-30-2014, 04:23 PM

'84 El Camino curb weight is right around 3300lbs according to the GM Heritage Center.

On a 2013 Camaro with the LFX, the curb weight is north of 3780 lbs

I guess I never realized how much our cars really weigh. Wow.

The axle ratio in the 1LS and LT cars is 3.27.

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09-30-2014, 08:29 AM	#1
ttesort1 Drives: 2013 2lt rs Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 241	2013 Lfx stock camaro vs. 84 el camino v8 I'm not trying to start a another v6 vs v8 forum fight, I bought a v6 because that's what I could afford at 19 which I am paying for myself. Although I do plan on upgrading once I make a little more and have this payed off, but this is a discussion for another day. My younger brother is getting a new crate 325 put in his car pretty soon and we plan to take our cars to the local drag strip (1/8 mile). His car (automatic) has upgraded exhaust and headers, also a racing shifter but I think that is it. My question is how well would my car do against his?

09-30-2014, 10:43 AM	#4
colingordon Her Name is Mila Drives: 2012 Camaro 1LT A6, 2014 Camaro 1LS Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,322 View My Garage	yeah its hard to say in the 1/4 I would say you have it, because he probably has 3 speed auto with 2.73 gears and 325 ci isn't that a big V8. But you dont need more then 3 gears on a 1/8 mile. hard to say only one way to find out __________________

09-30-2014, 01:35 PM	#9
colingordon Her Name is Mila Drives: 2012 Camaro 1LT A6, 2014 Camaro 1LS Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,322 View My Garage	El Camino - 325 HP at the crank, 3 speed automatic, 2.73 gearing (most likely) Camaro 323 HP at the crank, 6 speed automatic, I forget the gearing but 2.73 also?? It would be close but I give Camaro the win, those transmission are dogs and the torque converters such on them and BIG questions is it carb or fuel injected? __________________

09-30-2014, 02:29 PM	#11
ttesort1 Drives: 2013 2lt rs Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 241	He has a edelbrock carb, also just remembered he has edelbrock headers on it not sure what ones though Last edited by ttesort1; 09-30-2014 at 05:21 PM.

09-30-2014, 10:16 AM	#2
Splitter Account Suspended Drives: '14 RRM 1LT/RS A6 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: MA Posts: 2,065	Once that 325 is installed you will be seeing nothing but truck bed. Remember, the Toyota Camry is just .2 slower than our v6 Camaros. Your car will last a bit longer if you two keep racing them, though. Lol.

09-30-2014, 10:34 AM	#3
gajagfan Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Black - Std Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,622 View My Garage	In my opinion, the best chance you have is that the El Camino may have trouble getting traction due to the light rear end. If he gets it to hook just a bit, he wins.

09-30-2014, 12:01 PM	#7
Evergreen6 Banned Drives: 2023 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: United States Posts: 1,586	This is just a guess, but I think the answer is in the transmission. If it's a 3-speed auto, those things are dogs. Foot buried to the carpet, 1st gear covers all the way from a stop to almost 50mph depending on gearing. The question is, does it have enough torque to get out of the hole any quicker than you with a gearing advantage? That would be a fun run to watch!

09-30-2014, 12:05 PM	#8
ttesort1 Drives: 2013 2lt rs Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 241	Just heard from my dad it is a 350 engine with 325HP

09-30-2014, 03:30 PM	#13
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,754 View My Garage	A lot of variables here but I think it will be a good run. Due to the lack of weight in his rear end, I'd give you a slight advantage. Hook 'em up quick and you should win (barely). __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

09-30-2014, 04:23 PM	#14
Evergreen6 Banned Drives: 2023 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: United States Posts: 1,586	'84 El Camino curb weight is right around 3300lbs according to the GM Heritage Center. On a 2013 Camaro with the LFX, the curb weight is north of 3780 lbs I guess I never realized how much our cars really weigh. Wow. The axle ratio in the 1LS and LT cars is 3.27.