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Old 10-21-2015, 06:41 PM   #1
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My Adams Buttery Wax and Detail Spray review

Two weeks ago I waxed my car with Adams Buttery Wax, went on well, although I thought it a little thin, came off well. Depth of color, not impressed with, seems not as bright as before.

Since then, I have washed twice and dried with their detail spray. Detail spray is not bad, nice scent, and great lubricity, for the money though I think I will stay with Meguiars Synthetic X-Press Spray wax.

I washed a dusty car this evening, for the 2nd wash, and was surprised that the hood didn't bead, and after a sheeting rinse, didn't really come off the hood like it should.

Prior to this waxing, the last wax job was 6-9 months ago, and was still beading and sheeting well after that amount of time. Why did I wax again I wanted some additional protection before winter comes. Now it looks like I will have to wax again.

I did use the Spray Quick Sealant on the trunk (on top ox the wax), and it seems to protect well, at least the water was sheeting off well.

Have not as of yet had a chance to use the Liquid Paint Sealant yet, but will try to use it soon.

Fanboys are gonna light me up...

But just my honest opinion and assessment.

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Old 10-21-2015, 09:24 PM   #2
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can't see spending more when Megs has plenty of great products in several lines, and pretty much all of them are great values. Fan boys can bash both of us
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Old 10-21-2015, 09:28 PM   #3
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Jim I'd put wax on top of sealant, not sealant on top of wax, as wax is normally a combination of natural things like carnuba and beeswax, and has lower durability then a sealant.

Sealants are man made synthetic products and usually last much longer than traditional wax. I'm curious what "wax" you used that lasted for 6-9 months? Some manufacturers now label sealants as wax. It's Collinite's fault lol, they started it with 845 insulator "wax". It isn't wax, it's a sealant, and a very good one.

I haven't used Adams Buttery Wax, The Liquid Paint sealant is good for 5-6 months on an ungaraged DD (provided it's prepped correctly first with clay or prep towel), and unlike other sealants, it has no curing time, you can top it with wax or glaze right away. The Adams HGG will last 2 months and is my favorite of their LSP's for ease of application, and results (gloss effect).

I'm with you on the Detail Spray, it does smell better then any other I've used, But UWW concentrate is around 50c per 22oz bottle, and I notice no difference in anything except the smell, and UWW has a little more lubricity. I do like the Adams when I don't really feel like washing the car but it needs it. Makes the experience more enjoyable.

I would also have to add that Adams does have exceptional customer service, unlike other car care companies I've dealt with.

But if what you use works, and saves you money at the same time, that's a good thing!

Oh just to note, if you apply a wax on top of a wax that's degrading, the durability will usually be limited because it's sitting on top of a "weak" base. It's a good idea to strip wash if your wax has degraded, and clay if needed, to get maximum durability. Sealants will provide more durability, but tend to give more of a candy shell type look. If you like a warm, deep darker look, a good carnuba paste wax works. Lot's of good choices, I like Victoria's Concours Red wax.
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Old 10-21-2015, 10:00 PM   #4
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Thanks for the honest review. I use some Adams products, but I'm still objective about it. Like you said, their detail spray is good, but for the money, I use another brand too. On the other hand, I think their Brilliant Glaze is awesome, and worth the money.
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Pretty much agree. I like many of Adams products but Buttery Wax isn't very impressive.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:04 AM   #6
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Last wax I used was Meguiar's M26 Yellow wax.

I actually never strip wash, I wax 2, maybe 3 times a year, and never noticed the fresh coat not making things better. I was just surprised that the Buttery Wax made the sheeting appear worse than what I was getting before I used it.

My actual go-to line has been Meguiar's, with a couple of Chemical Guys items thrown in.

I tried the Adams items as I swapped them from a dealer for a design/printing job I did for him.



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Jim I'd put wax on top of sealant, not sealant on top of wax, as wax is normally a combination of natural things like carnuba and beeswax, and has lower durability then a sealant.

Sealants are man made synthetic products and usually last much longer than traditional wax. I'm curious what "wax" you used that lasted for 6-9 months? Some manufacturers now label sealants as wax. It's Collinite's fault lol, they started it with 845 insulator "wax". It isn't wax, it's a sealant, and a very good one.

I haven't used Adams Buttery Wax, The Liquid Paint sealant is good for 5-6 months on an ungaraged DD (provided it's prepped correctly first with clay or prep towel), and unlike other sealants, it has no curing time, you can top it with wax or glaze right away. The Adams HGG will last 2 months and is my favorite of their LSP's for ease of application, and results (gloss effect).

I'm with you on the Detail Spray, it does smell better then any other I've used, But UWW concentrate is around 50c per 22oz bottle, and I notice no difference in anything except the smell, and UWW has a little more lubricity. I do like the Adams when I don't really feel like washing the car but it needs it. Makes the experience more enjoyable.

I would also have to add that Adams does have exceptional customer service, unlike other car care companies I've dealt with.

But if what you use works, and saves you money at the same time, that's a good thing!

Oh just to note, if you apply a wax on top of a wax that's degrading, the durability will usually be limited because it's sitting on top of a "weak" base. It's a good idea to strip wash if your wax has degraded, and clay if needed, to get maximum durability. Sealants will provide more durability, but tend to give more of a candy shell type look. If you like a warm, deep darker look, a good carnuba paste wax works. Lot's of good choices, I like Victoria's Concours Red wax.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:23 PM   #7
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Jim I'd put wax on top of sealant, not sealant on top of wax, as wax is normally a combination of natural things like carnuba and beeswax, and has lower durability then a sealant.

Sealants are man made synthetic products and usually last much longer than traditional wax. I'm curious what "wax" you used that lasted for 6-9 months? Some manufacturers now label sealants as wax. It's Collinite's fault lol, they started it with 845 insulator "wax". It isn't wax, it's a sealant, and a very good one.

I haven't used Adams Buttery Wax, The Liquid Paint sealant is good for 5-6 months on an ungaraged DD (provided it's prepped correctly first with clay or prep towel), and unlike other sealants, it has no curing time, you can top it with wax or glaze right away. The Adams HGG will last 2 months and is my favorite of their LSP's for ease of application, and results (gloss effect).

I'm with you on the Detail Spray, it does smell better then any other I've used, But UWW concentrate is around 50c per 22oz bottle, and I notice no difference in anything except the smell, and UWW has a little more lubricity. I do like the Adams when I don't really feel like washing the car but it needs it. Makes the experience more enjoyable.

I would also have to add that Adams does have exceptional customer service, unlike other car care companies I've dealt with.

But if what you use works, and saves you money at the same time, that's a good thing!

Oh just to note, if you apply a wax on top of a wax that's degrading, the durability will usually be limited because it's sitting on top of a "weak" base. It's a good idea to strip wash if your wax has degraded, and clay if needed, to get maximum durability. Sealants will provide more durability, but tend to give more of a candy shell type look. If you like a warm, deep darker look, a good carnuba paste wax works. Lot's of good choices, I like Victoria's Concours Red wax.
I think if you check Collinite 845 insulator wax is a carnauba/polymer blend.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:53 PM   #8
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Thanks for the review. I like Adams detail spray a lot, but so much more expensive than others that you can buy in concentrate form. Annoying to have to buy and ship water (which is effectively what happens when buying a diluted mix instead of concentrate), but I guess it helps Adams keep control over product quality.

I just recently started trying ONR wash & wax (with carnauba) diluted at 16:1 as a quick detailer. I think Adams has a bit more shine so may save that for "special occasions" and use the ONR mix for drying lubrication, etc.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:46 PM   #9
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Adams Brilliant Glaze is great and I use Meguiar's Ultimate liquid wax and detailer on my '15 Red Rock Metallic coupe. Always been a big fan of Megs.
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next time go with the Blackfire Fire and Ice -- wax on top of two coats of sealant.

Lay down some Black Light before the sealant if you want it super shiny.
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I think if you check Collinite 845 insulator wax is a carnauba/polymer blend.

LOL. I know what Collinite 845 is. I think the first time I used it was late 1980's or early 1990's?

It does contain some carnuba, but not a high content, the durability comes from the synthetic polymers that it contains, which make it a sealant, not a wax.

Lots of products are labeled as 1 thing but are actually another.
Another good example is CG Blacklight , it's said to be a sealant, but it's actually a glaze. Again, this is not a bad product, it's a fantastic glaze. Just not labeled for what it really is.

A true wax contains mainly natural ingredients, and won't last as long as a sealant which contains synthetic polymers.
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LOL. I know what Collinite 845 is. I think the first time I used it was late 1980's or early 1990's?

It does contain some carnuba, but not a high content, the durability comes from the synthetic polymers that it contains, which make it a sealant, not a wax.

Lots of products are labeled as 1 thing but are actually another.
Another good example is CG Blacklight , it's said to be a sealant, but it's actually a glaze. Again, this is not a bad product, it's a fantastic glaze. Just not labeled for what it really is.

A true wax contains mainly natural ingredients, and won't last as long as a sealant which contains synthetic polymers.
How do you know other than the label? I don't remember seeing the ingredients list having percentages.
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How do you know other than the label? I don't remember seeing the ingredients list having percentages.
Because I have used waxes with high content of carnuba. the durability and look of these waxes are quite different than 845.

Since they don't contain synthetic polymers, they will never last as long as 845.

845 won't give you the look of a wax that has high carnuba content.

A sealant I currently use is Sonus Ion Paint Coating. Another example of a product that's labeled incorrectly. It's not a coating, it's a sealant, I would say a polycharged version of Menzerna power lock.
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LOL. I know what Collinite 845 is. I think the first time I used it was late 1980's or early 1990's?

It does contain some carnuba, but not a high content, the durability comes from the synthetic polymers that it contains, which make it a sealant, not a wax.

Lots of products are labeled as 1 thing but are actually another.
Another good example is CG Blacklight , it's said to be a sealant, but it's actually a glaze. Again, this is not a bad product, it's a fantastic glaze. Just not labeled for what it really is.

A true wax contains mainly natural ingredients, and won't last as long as a sealant which contains synthetic polymers.

2. What’s the difference between the auto waxes; No. 845 Insulator Wax, No. 476s Super Double Coat and the No. 915 Marque D’ Elegance?

All 3 last step waxes serve the same function: to provide a high gloss carnauba shine and lasting protection. All 3 contain copious amounts of wax-both rare Brazilian carnauba and premium synthetic polymers. However, their degree of durability, ease of use, and warmth of shine vary. Think of it this way;
1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.
2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.
3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.
this is from the Collinite web site i am guessing copious means just a little. LOL
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