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ender2664 · 10-29-2015, 05:09 PM

am i correct in saying performance wise the Gen6 is superior to the 1LE correct?
In ask because I ran into a deal to get a new 1LE for 40k.

HOJO · 10-29-2015, 05:44 PM

From what I have read, the new se in a straight line will be faster. 200 pounds lighter and about 30 more horse power. But to out perform the 1LE on road track you will need the magnetic ride suspense. Not sure how close they are without the magnetic ride though. I mean the new ss not se, damn auto correct.

Chris1SS1LE · 10-29-2015, 05:54 PM

I would wait till Randy Pobst gets behind the wheel, It might be quicker and weigh less which will benefit in the straights, but with the narrow tires its going pull less G's in the corner. I think it will post same times.

The magnetic ride isn't the majic maker. I bet its going to be like a Chevy Malibu ride when off and a standard SS when on. I doubt it will be as stiff as a 1LE.

gajagfan · 10-29-2015, 06:03 PM

I for one can not wait until here are tests done by folks like Probst do the test. I know many will say he is not impartial, but I have a hard time believing that that even a mag ride standard SS gen 6 is going to out handle a gen 5 1LE. It very well may out o -60 it (and should), but not out handle it.

LT1Zob · 10-29-2015, 08:49 PM

Don't care. 5th gen 1LE is what I have and enjoy.

Iron Lung Jimmy · 10-29-2015, 09:48 PM

GM itself has said that the new SS will out handle a 1LE.

So I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the new SS will out handle a 1LE

White_SS/RS · 10-29-2015, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

GM itself has said that the new SS will out handle a 1LE.

So I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the new SS will out handle a 1LE

Where is the exact verbiage from GM that this is stated?

Tmick5jr · 10-29-2015, 10:56 PM

I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that the standard ss is faster than the 13-15 1le around a track

Joseph1LE · 10-29-2015, 11:18 PM

"Around a track" is a very broad statement... On a longer road course with more straights? Sure, I can see the '16 SS with MRC outrunning a 1LE. On a small, tight road course or auto x course? 1LE takes it any day. Magazine tests have already been done and they didn't show the '16 SS to have any advantage over a 1LE besides straight line acceleration.

Iron Lung Jimmy · 10-30-2015, 08:08 AM

You are probably right. On a tight course the smaller, lighter, more powerful car with a better suspension will always be at a disadvantage.

SASQUATCHelvis · 10-30-2015, 08:48 AM

My director is getting a 6th gen test vehicle in the relatively near future so I'd be happy to write up a comparison. Granted, I'm not Randy Pobst, nor do I know what spec Camaro it will be, but if the stars align and I get some seat time in a manual SS 6th gen I'll be happy to tell you my impressions.

From talking to people very familiar with the car though, I've been told they're different animals. The 1LE is likely going to be a better performance-driver experience while the 6th gen is going to be the overall better car with the technical advancements that have been made and implemented in the car.

I guess it all depends on what your metric is for determining which car is better.

Stormcloak · 10-30-2015, 09:41 AM

You should be able to get a better deal than 40k on a 2015 1LE at this point. Just saying.

gajagfan · 10-30-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

You are probably right. On a tight course the smaller, lighter, more powerful car with a better suspension will always be at a disadvantage.

How are you so sure that the Gen 6 has a better suspension / tire set up? Because of MRC? I think we better wait for some numbers.

trashmanssd · 10-30-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

You are probably right. On a tight course the smaller, lighter, more powerful car with a better suspension will always be at a disadvantage.

IMO, its the tires that will be the biggest factor in the 1LE besting the 2016 SS on a highly technical course. Summer only track type 285 front 285 rear tires vs 245 front 275 rear all season high performance tires. I think when the experts get it out on a course that the will say its only held back by its tendency to under steer in corners. if its got long enough straits for the power and weight savings (not sure how much of the 200 lb advantage will be lost with adding mag ride) the new SS may beat it on those type tracks.

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ender2664 Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 2,353	New SS V 1LE am i correct in saying performance wise the Gen6 is superior to the 1LE correct? In ask because I ran into a deal to get a new 1LE for 40k.

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LT1Zob Drives: 23 LT1 / 19 Z06 / after 6 5th gens Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MI Posts: 2,023 View My Garage	Don't care. 5th gen 1LE is what I have and enjoy. __________________ "Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you"

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Joseph1LE Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE, 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 836	"Around a track" is a very broad statement... On a longer road course with more straights? Sure, I can see the '16 SS with MRC outrunning a 1LE. On a small, tight road course or auto x course? 1LE takes it any day. Magazine tests have already been done and they didn't show the '16 SS to have any advantage over a 1LE besides straight line acceleration. __________________ 2017 GMC Canyon All Terrain- daily driver/dirt bike hauler 2015 Camaro SS 1LE- sold 2001 Camaro SS SOM M6- sold 1999 Firebird Formula A4- sold

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Stormcloak slower than you Drives: 2012 C6 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: NY Posts: 668 View My Garage	You should be able to get a better deal than 40k on a 2015 1LE at this point. Just saying. __________________

10-29-2015, 05:44 PM	#2
HOJO Drives: 2014 Camaro SS/RS 1LE 1967 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 886	From what I have read, the new se in a straight line will be faster. 200 pounds lighter and about 30 more horse power. But to out perform the 1LE on road track you will need the magnetic ride suspense. Not sure how close they are without the magnetic ride though. I mean the new ss not se, damn auto correct.

10-29-2015, 05:54 PM	#3
Chris1SS1LE Drives: 2014 Camaro Red Hot 1LE NPP Recaro Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 639	I would wait till Randy Pobst gets behind the wheel, It might be quicker and weigh less which will benefit in the straights, but with the narrow tires its going pull less G's in the corner. I think it will post same times. The magnetic ride isn't the majic maker. I bet its going to be like a Chevy Malibu ride when off and a standard SS when on. I doubt it will be as stiff as a 1LE.

10-29-2015, 06:03 PM	#4
gajagfan Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Black - Std Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Brunswick, GA Posts: 3,622 View My Garage	I for one can not wait until here are tests done by folks like Probst do the test. I know many will say he is not impartial, but I have a hard time believing that that even a mag ride standard SS gen 6 is going to out handle a gen 5 1LE. It very well may out o -60 it (and should), but not out handle it.

10-29-2015, 09:48 PM	#6
Iron Lung Jimmy Drives: Iron Lung, Jimmy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,577	GM itself has said that the new SS will out handle a 1LE. So I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the new SS will out handle a 1LE

10-29-2015, 10:56 PM	#8
Tmick5jr Todd Drives: 2012 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,669 View My Garage	I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that the standard ss is faster than the 13-15 1le around a track

10-30-2015, 08:08 AM	#10
Iron Lung Jimmy Drives: Iron Lung, Jimmy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,577	You are probably right. On a tight course the smaller, lighter, more powerful car with a better suspension will always be at a disadvantage.

10-30-2015, 08:48 AM	#11
SASQUATCHelvis Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 175 View My Garage	My director is getting a 6th gen test vehicle in the relatively near future so I'd be happy to write up a comparison. Granted, I'm not Randy Pobst, nor do I know what spec Camaro it will be, but if the stars align and I get some seat time in a manual SS 6th gen I'll be happy to tell you my impressions. From talking to people very familiar with the car though, I've been told they're different animals. The 1LE is likely going to be a better performance-driver experience while the 6th gen is going to be the overall better car with the technical advancements that have been made and implemented in the car. I guess it all depends on what your metric is for determining which car is better.