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Old 07-13-2016, 09:09 PM   #1
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elite engineering catch can question

i decided to go with one of the elite engineering catch cans.. now im wondering what the difference between the first gen, second gen, and the E2-X?

im running a naturally aspirated v6 with an upgraded CAI...
i dont plan on doing any forced induction.
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:25 AM   #2
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:43 AM   #3
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe the newer gens are better/newer designs and include FI applications whereas the first one didn't I think? Anyways, If I were you I would get the standard CC and the cleanside breather. I have the E2 and breather and they work great.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:17 AM   #4
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If you not going force just get simple one. I had billet catch can ($125 few years ago)before i went turbo setup and now have e2. I sell you my old on for $75 shipped. It worked really well for me. Let me know
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:03 AM   #5
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I believe the 2nd gen has greater capacity in the reservoir and only comes black where the original has choice of color
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:47 PM   #6
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Capacity is what I recall.
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:18 PM   #7
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Great question, and as we see some choose the wrong solution for their application this should help all in understanding how to match the "right" Elite solution for your vehicle/build.

Here is a guide in a nutshell:

The base Elite was designed years ago, and for years was one of the most effective units you could buy as far as port injection engines were concerned. As we have always invested in better, improved, and appropriate solutions for all engine applications, we then released the E2 with larger capacity and dual outlets for use on big power builds and forced induction needs.

As Direct injection engines became the standard, and they cannot tolerate even small amounts of oil ingestion, we redesigned our E2 Catch Can and introduced the E2-X. Both are designed to be the best solution for all GDI engines (the V6 is GDI as are all GM V8's from 2014 and up except Camaro 2016 and up). We developed these as the ultimate solution with no more effective solution on the market.

The E2-X Ultra is for the big power, big boost builds and is effective for well over 1000 WHP.


The Billet cleanside separator is a must with ANY catchcan system as well.

So, for the budget minded buyer with a port injection engine, the base Elite is still one of the best solutions for the money as it always has been.

The E2 was recently revised to utilize some of the features that make the E2-X so effective showing our constant commitment to providing the best solutions instead of the "same old" that most competitors offer.

So for a GDI engine, the E2 and E2-X with dual valves and cleanside will provide the best possible solution available period. And we stand behind this claim with the "catchcan test" where you install our E2 or E2-X inline AFTER any other can, and run for 1000 miles or more. Our Catch Cans will trap as much or more than any of the other cans in most cases AFTER the first can did it's best. Then swap the order and almost nothing gets past our E2 or the E2-X Catch Can


So, the Base Elite. our original is still a great solution for the budget minded consumer with a port injection engine, but if you have a DI engine, look at the E2 or E2-X as your best solution.

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As Direct injection engines became the standard, and they cannot tolerate even small amounts of oil ingestion, we redesigned our E2 Catch Can and introduced the E2-X. Both are designed to be the best solution for all GDI engines (the V6 is GDI as are all GM V8's from 2014 and up except Camaro 2016 and up). We developed these as the ultimate solution with no more effective solution on the market.

Is the LS3 in the 2014/2015 Camaro a GDI engine? I'm confused by your post....having previously thought our engines were port injected. I thought the LT1 in the 6th gen went to GDI while our engines were port injected even in 14/15.
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Great question, and as we see some choose the wrong solution for their application this should help all in understanding how to match the "right" Elite solution for your vehicle/build.

Here is a guide in a nutshell:

The base Elite was designed years ago, and for years was one of the most effective units you could buy as far as port injection engines were concerned. As we have always invested in better, improved, and appropriate solutions for all engine applications, we then released the E2 with larger capacity and dual outlets for use on big power builds and forced induction needs.

As Direct injection engines became the standard, and they cannot tolerate even small amounts of oil ingestion, we redesigned our E2 Catch Can and introduced the E2-X. Both are designed to be the best solution for all GDI engines (the V6 is GDI as are all GM V8's from 2014 and up except Camaro 2016 and up). We developed these as the ultimate solution with no more effective solution on the market.

The E2-X Ultra is for the big power, big boost builds and is effective for well over 1000 WHP.


The Billet cleanside separator is a must with ANY catchcan system as well.

So, for the budget minded buyer with a port injection engine, the base Elite is still one of the best solutions for the money as it always has been.

The E2 was recently revised to utilize some of the features that make the E2-X so effective showing our constant commitment to providing the best solutions instead of the "same old" that most competitors offer.

So for a GDI engine, the E2 and E2-X with dual valves and cleanside will provide the best possible solution available period. And we stand behind this claim with the "catchcan test" where you install our E2 or E2-X inline AFTER any other can, and run for 1000 miles or more. Our Catch Cans will trap as much or more than any of the other cans in most cases AFTER the first can did it's best. Then swap the order and almost nothing gets past our E2 or the E2-X Catch Can


So, the Base Elite. our original is still a great solution for the budget minded consumer with a port injection engine, but if you have a DI engine, look at the E2 or E2-X as your best solution.

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Not sure you should be stating things about the CC's this way . You could make a lot of us that bought the standard CC think we bought the wrong one . The E2-X just came out this past spring (16 ?) and before that there was the Standard and the E2 the E2 having 3 connections instead of 2 . The E2 was advertised for boosted engines and the Standard was for the non boosted .

Also if the Standard CC is now only for Port injected Engines shouldn't you not list the LLT & LFX engines in the application list ? Sorry to be a pain about this but some people may do a search and come across this and get confused .
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:54 AM   #10
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To clarify:


GM went all GDI in all gasoline engines in the 2014 model year EXCEPT the Camaro. The Camaro adopted the LT1 GDI engine for the 2016 model year. so if you have a 2015 or earlier V8, it is the LS based port injection engine.


As for the proper can for the engine you have, yes, the previous post is correct. What we find is many make the choice by price, and even the base Elite is helping reduce the rate of coking in your GDI.

We share as much technical information in these posts as we can to help all understand all that is involved and why, but we have no intention of discontinuing our base Catch Can as it is the most popular, and for a very affordable price.

As technology advances, Elite Engineering is also advancing, and more quickly now that in the past compared to so many other brands that retain the same old partially effective cans they offered years ago, still offered today even with the changes.



We will always be moving forward and bring the best possible solutions, and in forced induction, especially turbo and centrifugal applications and our work with Turbonetics to validate how these latest solutions solve the issues that plague all Turbo builds.


The market for used Elite cans is strong, they never stay for sale long when one goes up if you choose to move up, this makes it pretty painless.


As most can see over the past year or so we have become far more proactive in offering tech advice to all even if not related to what we manufacture. And our direct Technical Support email can also aid any who need guidance on any aspect of the proper choice, routing, or trouble shooting. Contact Jason direct at: Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com



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