Solid roller done and ready, stock sbe - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

WHAMMO · 04-16-2020, 01:38 PM

So its finally done, after a week of chasing some electrical problems (1st I learned that oem relays arent the same as aftermarket; 85 and 86 are inverted, 2nd a loose ground drove me close to crazy; car was instantly stalling under load around 4800rpm), and fixing coolant leaks by the rear steam vent plugs cause aftermarket heads (FED custom 262cc TFS).

Then had to buy Taylor 409 race truck wires cause the header's flanges are too close to plugs now and the plugs were just sitting on the flanges. Taylor wires are the good right now; the car felt immediately better and smoother, along with brand new TR6s. I suspect I had 3 bad wires adn thats why my car felt slower at the end of the last season.

I had to flush oil twice cause the T&D rockers hit the stock valve covers baffles, even with a .5inch spacers!, and metal residus had fallen on topend (idled 4mins). Cleaned that for 3 hours with Qtips and rags then new oil. Then the relay problem was a disaster and the car fell into limp mode and couldnt idle anymore and the car ended up flooded; oil was smelling gas like crazy. Flushed that too. Now I am putting my Zrod and new filter now that everything is fine.

DRIVABILITY
I drove the car and did a WOT run...this thing rev like thjere is no tomorrow!! Before, the car felt it was difficult over 6800. Now it revs better at 7500 than before at 6500!
Car is kinda smoother than before, and it feels stronger in the lower rpm with the bigger solid roller cam! I would really need gears cause I hit high speed just in 3rd!
The car is a joy, lets hope this sbe endure whatever is comin this season. But seriously, its all in the valvetrain setup, cause now I feel its smoother over 7k and the ls3 almost seems like it was made for this!

Lash is 0 cold(some preload on the adjustment so its not too loud at idle)
Hot is 0.010.

POWER
I can safely say there is more than 50hp over my last setup. I feel more tq too and the powerband last forever. I will rev easily to 8k.

WHAMMO · 04-16-2020, 01:40 PM

https://youtu.be/O16e6hw8Tu8

zz430camaro · 04-16-2020, 02:43 PM

sounds beautiful

zz430camaro · 04-16-2020, 02:44 PM

is the solid roller valve train nice and quiet?

WHAMMO · 04-16-2020, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zz430camaro

is the solid roller valve train nice and quiet?

It is very quiet!! Quieter with some preload into it I guess. I'll download a video.

InFiD3ViL · 04-16-2020, 03:31 PM

So sick man. That natural lope sounds amazing.

62nalide · 04-16-2020, 04:12 PM

Very nice! When do you plan to hit the rollers?

WHAMMO · 04-16-2020, 05:08 PM

As soon as I can. I texted my friend who has a dyno. For now, the car is showing 667hp on dashlogic, last year was 593hp, this dashlogic is on point! Torque seems good too, I saw 485+ on the screen.

The car only has a base tune. I hope to gain some up top, maybe 675 is possible. I called it

https://youtu.be/HY0ssUnHTVQ

Chris49066SS · 04-16-2020, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

As soon as I can. I texted my friend who has a dyno. For now, the car is showing 667hp on dashlogic, last year was 593hp, this dashlogic is on point! Torque seems good too, I saw 485+ on the screen.

The car only has a base tune. I hope to gain some up top, maybe 675 is possible. I called it

https://youtu.be/HY0ssUnHTVQ

Very interested in what you can do at the track!

WHAMMO · 04-17-2020, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

Very interested in what you can do at the track!

In all honesty, the car will suck at the track because it needs a SS trans with a 4.10 to perform. I could easily pass the 1/4 in 3rd gear with 28inch tires right now...

Chris49066SS · 04-17-2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

In all honesty, the car will suck at the track because it needs a SS trans with a 4.10 to perform. I could easily pass the 1/4 in 3rd gear with 28inch tires right now...

Why not put a TH400 and some 4.10s behind it and call it a day? Is yours a drag or track car?

WHAMMO · 04-17-2020, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

Why not put a TH400 and some 4.10s behind it and call it a day? Is yours a drag or track car?

I have no goal for the car now. Its a street car, weekend car. I wont do an automatic, for now. Just wanted to have a high hp NA engine.

zz430camaro · 04-17-2020, 05:56 PM

If you have a extra 6k laying around, put in a 4.56 Strange diff in it, that will get it revving.

WHAMMO · 04-17-2020, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zz430camaro

If you have a extra 6k laying around, put in a 4.56 Strange diff in it, that will get it revving.

hahaha, best scenario. It would be soo nice..even then I'd need to swap for a regular SS trans ont top of that or more agressive gears. I do hit 60mph in 1st gear now, at 8k rpm :O

04-16-2020, 01:38 PM	#1
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,646	Solid roller done and ready, stock sbe So its finally done, after a week of chasing some electrical problems (1st I learned that oem relays arent the same as aftermarket; 85 and 86 are inverted, 2nd a loose ground drove me close to crazy; car was instantly stalling under load around 4800rpm), and fixing coolant leaks by the rear steam vent plugs cause aftermarket heads (FED custom 262cc TFS). Then had to buy Taylor 409 race truck wires cause the header's flanges are too close to plugs now and the plugs were just sitting on the flanges. Taylor wires are the good right now; the car felt immediately better and smoother, along with brand new TR6s. I suspect I had 3 bad wires adn thats why my car felt slower at the end of the last season. I had to flush oil twice cause the T&D rockers hit the stock valve covers baffles, even with a .5inch spacers!, and metal residus had fallen on topend (idled 4mins). Cleaned that for 3 hours with Qtips and rags then new oil. Then the relay problem was a disaster and the car fell into limp mode and couldnt idle anymore and the car ended up flooded; oil was smelling gas like crazy. Flushed that too. Now I am putting my Zrod and new filter now that everything is fine. DRIVABILITY I drove the car and did a WOT run...this thing rev like thjere is no tomorrow!! Before, the car felt it was difficult over 6800. Now it revs better at 7500 than before at 6500! Car is kinda smoother than before, and it feels stronger in the lower rpm with the bigger solid roller cam! I would really need gears cause I hit high speed just in 3rd! The car is a joy, lets hope this sbe endure whatever is comin this season. But seriously, its all in the valvetrain setup, cause now I feel its smoother over 7k and the ls3 almost seems like it was made for this! Lash is 0 cold(some preload on the adjustment so its not too loud at idle) Hot is 0.010. POWER I can safely say there is more than 50hp over my last setup. I feel more tq too and the powerband last forever. I will rev easily to 8k. __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me. Last edited by WHAMMO; 04-16-2020 at 06:14 PM. Reason: Grammar

04-16-2020, 01:40 PM	#2
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,646	https://youtu.be/O16e6hw8Tu8 __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

04-16-2020, 02:43 PM	#3
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	sounds beautiful __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

04-16-2020, 02:44 PM	#4
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	is the solid roller valve train nice and quiet? __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

04-16-2020, 03:31 PM	#6
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,619	So sick man. That natural lope sounds amazing. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

04-16-2020, 04:12 PM	#7
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	Very nice! When do you plan to hit the rollers? __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

04-16-2020, 05:08 PM	#8
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,646	As soon as I can. I texted my friend who has a dyno. For now, the car is showing 667hp on dashlogic, last year was 593hp, this dashlogic is on point! Torque seems good too, I saw 485+ on the screen. The car only has a base tune. I hope to gain some up top, maybe 675 is possible. I called it https://youtu.be/HY0ssUnHTVQ __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me. Last edited by WHAMMO; 04-16-2020 at 05:09 PM. Reason: Add text

04-17-2020, 05:56 PM	#13
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	If you have a extra 6k laying around, put in a 4.56 Strange diff in it, that will get it revving. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ