I want to retire when I'm 48 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

tjbusa · 02-23-2009, 08:30 PM

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...at-48-too.aspx
I like this guys take:
"For these taxpayer subsidies, the government could buy hundreds of thousands of GM cars a month and give them to deserving citizens. Make mine a Corvette, please."

Make mine a camaro

GrnMchin · 02-23-2009, 08:32 PM

Read it in the AM alot of good points

Blownhotrodder · 02-23-2009, 08:45 PM

Just sickening. The only thing I have to add is that if they go under its their own faults, if they survive its because of you and me(MR. & MRS. Taxpayer).

On the other hand, it looks like Ford is doing a better job of running a company. They arent asking for any money and are also making way with dealing with the uaw. Just today I read that Ford had reached a healthcare trust fund deal with them bringing down costs.

*CamaroSpike23* · 02-23-2009, 08:45 PM

join the military...lol

t3chfr3ak · 02-23-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

Just sickening. The only thing I have to add is that if they go under its their own faults, if they survive its because of you and me(MR. & MRS. Taxpayer).

On the other hand, it looks like Ford is doing a better job of running a company. They arent asking for any money and are also making way with dealing with the uaw. Just today I read that Ford had reached a healthcare trust fund deal with them bringing down costs.

Um Ford got their money before things started going in the toilet. Thats why they are not asking.

Blownhotrodder · 02-23-2009, 09:01 PM

So your saying they did a better job of preparing right? Yea I thought thats what you were trying to say.

They also didnt get that money from the govt.

Mr_Draco · 02-23-2009, 09:08 PM

I love how his biggest gripe is that you can retire at 48 if you was with the company for 30 years considering some companies offer retirement plans for less amount of years worked.

Blownhotrodder · 02-23-2009, 09:12 PM

Yes but not with full benefits.

Mr_Draco · 02-23-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

So your saying they did a better job of preparing right? Yea I thought thats what you were trying to say.

They also didnt get that money from the govt.

No he's saying Ford was in the shape GM and Chrysler are in now several years ago and took out multi-billion dollar loans from the banks back when they was still loaning.

t3chfr3ak · 02-23-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

So your saying they did a better job of preparing right? Yea I thought thats what you were trying to say.

They also didnt get that money from the govt.

No Im saying they were going into the toilet before GM or Dodge. Who did they get the money from?

I think this answers that.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/25/auto...on=money_autos

kdbolt70 · 02-23-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

So your saying they did a better job of preparing right? Yea I thought thats what you were trying to say.

They also didnt get that money from the govt.

Facts. Learn them.

zebra · 02-23-2009, 09:54 PM

like spike said, the military is a great route if you wanna retire early. 20 years of active duty

DeathChill · 02-23-2009, 10:07 PM

I'm not sure how anyone can complain that Ford took out loans (read: NOT TAXPAYER'S MONEY) from banks. They did it smartly rather then letting themselves get to the point where they were nearly bankrupt.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-23-2009, 10:29 PM

My dad took the 30-and-out deal. He started when he was around 32 years old though.

02-23-2009, 08:30 PM	#1
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,129	I want to retire when I'm 48 http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...at-48-too.aspx I like this guys take: "For these taxpayer subsidies, the government could buy hundreds of thousands of GM cars a month and give them to deserving citizens. Make mine a Corvette, please." Make mine a camaro

02-23-2009, 09:54 PM	#12
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