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SAE05 · 02-04-2009, 11:12 PM

I just realized that they, GM, put the phear back in mcpherson. Ok, packaging restraints . . . the reason ride engineers went back to an SLA front with the 4th gen was handeling performance.

Not a lot of tuning options with the strut. I did not say none, just not much. I assume the decision was platform driven no doubt.

The rear is much improved with an SLA, but you don't see a macfearson on a vette.

Wondering if there is a simple engineering reason why they went with struts? Cost, packaging, new and improved strut design.

Mr Twisty · 02-05-2009, 08:41 AM

Good question, I would have liked to see SLA & coilovers, but they're getting some good numbers with the strut setup...Maybe our Pedders friends can shed some light on 'why'.

Txturbo · 02-05-2009, 08:49 AM

Pedders makes fully adjustable/tunable struts for the Camaro.

SAE05 · 02-05-2009, 09:39 AM

An SLA is preferable for performance applications. Most times when the suspension is compressed, there is a given amount change that occurs to the camber angle, which in some cases can have a negative effect on vehicle handling.

I am familiar with some of the tunable struts that are out there, just wondering what aftermarket designs for our vehicle will be available that will compensate for some of the short comings that a strut can have.

Mr Twisty · 02-05-2009, 10:29 AM

pedders adjustables...

camber plate for pedders XA extremes...Looks like a nice compromise.

And pillow ball bearings...

They had a Christmas sale with 18 pre-orders I hear (including me) Should be getting feedback in a few months on this setup.

SAE05 · 02-05-2009, 12:06 PM

YummY

Did you get something for the rear as well?

Mr Twisty · 02-05-2009, 12:21 PM

XA's all 4 corners is all I ordered so far. There's some good discussion in this area from pedders about what will be available, including bushings. Do a search for 'pedders' or just roam thru the Wheel / Tires / Suspension / Brakes Talk area for pedders posts.

gunslinger · 02-05-2009, 02:22 PM

Those look VERY expensive!

headpunter · 02-05-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gunslinger

Those look VERY expensive!

quality and performance is never cheap

Mr Twisty · 02-05-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

quality and performance is never cheap

Well said.

toesuf94 · 02-05-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

quality and performance is never cheap

And if it is...it is NOT quality and it will NOT perform. You get what you pay for.

Mungo · 02-05-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Well said.

Unless your the government. Then quality and performance is nonexistant and very expensive.

UCF w00t · 02-05-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mungo

Unless your the government. Then quality and performance is nonexistant and very expensive.

Trust me, they choose for it to be that way.

Ject · 02-05-2009, 05:36 PM

hmmm.. interesting.. maybe something I'll have to look into a little later on.

02-04-2009, 11:12 PM	#1
SAE05 inconspicuous observer Drives: 05 GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dayton Posts: 145	oh dear, struts I just realized that they, GM, put the phear back in mcpherson. Ok, packaging restraints . . . the reason ride engineers went back to an SLA front with the 4th gen was handeling performance. Not a lot of tuning options with the strut. I did not say none, just not much. I assume the decision was platform driven no doubt. The rear is much improved with an SLA, but you don't see a macfearson on a vette. Wondering if there is a simple engineering reason why they went with struts? Cost, packaging, new and improved strut design. __________________ _________________________________ Dodges . . . we don't need no stinking Dodges `O~O>

02-05-2009, 08:49 AM	#3
Txturbo Keeper of the Faith Drives: 2001 Z28 Agressively Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rosenberg,Texas Posts: 1,380 View My Garage	Pedders makes fully adjustable/tunable struts for the Camaro. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS R6P 2001 Camaro Z28 1969 Camaro SS clone

02-05-2009, 09:39 AM	#4
SAE05 inconspicuous observer Drives: 05 GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dayton Posts: 145	An SLA is preferable for performance applications. Most times when the suspension is compressed, there is a given amount change that occurs to the camber angle, which in some cases can have a negative effect on vehicle handling. I am familiar with some of the tunable struts that are out there, just wondering what aftermarket designs for our vehicle will be available that will compensate for some of the short comings that a strut can have. __________________ _________________________________ Dodges . . . we don't need no stinking Dodges `O~O>

02-05-2009, 10:29 AM	#5
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	pedders adjustables... camber plate for pedders XA extremes...Looks like a nice compromise. And pillow ball bearings... They had a Christmas sale with 18 pre-orders I hear (including me) Should be getting feedback in a few months on this setup. Last edited by Mr Twisty; 02-05-2009 at 10:40 AM.

02-05-2009, 12:06 PM	#6
SAE05 inconspicuous observer Drives: 05 GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dayton Posts: 145	YummY Did you get something for the rear as well? __________________ _________________________________ Dodges . . . we don't need no stinking Dodges `O~O>

02-05-2009, 08:41 AM	#2
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	Good question, I would have liked to see SLA & coilovers, but they're getting some good numbers with the strut setup...Maybe our Pedders friends can shed some light on 'why'.

02-05-2009, 12:21 PM	#7
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	XA's all 4 corners is all I ordered so far. There's some good discussion in this area from pedders about what will be available, including bushings. Do a search for 'pedders' or just roam thru the Wheel / Tires / Suspension / Brakes Talk area for pedders posts. Last edited by Mr Twisty; 02-05-2009 at 12:32 PM.

02-05-2009, 02:22 PM	#8
gunslinger Drives: 1998 Z28 M6 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 254	Those look VERY expensive! __________________ GTR: Get Transmission Replaced

02-05-2009, 05:36 PM	#14
Ject aka Patrick Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS '04 Silverado Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Derby Kansas Posts: 3,072	hmmm.. interesting.. maybe something I'll have to look into a little later on. __________________ Current Modifications: Your average Bolt-ons & Suspension Upgrades GForce Engineering: 9" Rear End, Strange Pro Iron Case w/Moser Nodular 3.70:1 Detroit locker, 3.5" Solid Drive Shaft

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