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CJandtheSS · 03-21-2016, 11:59 AM

Hello all I am currently looking to upgrade to a LSA conversion from ADM. I'm looking at the stage one kit and wanted to know besides the intake, ZL1 pump/BAP, and the crank pinning kit am I missing anything else for the install? Additionally, I am looking to make 550rwhp. I currently have headers installed and wanted to know if the stock pulley would be enough to get me there and also how much of a PITA is it to replace if the time comes. Thanks guys.

gennro · 03-22-2016, 03:57 PM

Well I just did the kit. It does come with the jig to pin the crank. You will need to get a ZL1 compatible intake and some NGK TR7 sparkplugs. I do know on my setup with the stock pulley with running a full exhaust and stock engine I get 4 psi. With that I have plenty of fuel for that. Changing the pulley requires pulling the snout from the supercharger which is a pain.

I would imagine and that is just me guessing right now since I have not had time to get on a dyno yet I am somewhere between 500 to 550 whp to the wheels.

nosmr2 · 03-22-2016, 04:04 PM

Andy did my conversion. I have a L99, so not quite the same base HP as you. He dyno'd me at 501 with the SC, intake, headers and a tune. YMMV.

EM1/SS · 03-22-2016, 04:14 PM

My LS3 is on the dyno now after installing the ADM kit. It is right at 500 hp at the wheels. It might be a little higher when it's done, but probably not too much.

gennro · 03-22-2016, 04:17 PM

Yeah I am guessing close to the 500 to 520 whp at the wheels with that stock pulley seems more likely with the manual.

hammdo · 03-22-2016, 04:50 PM

No, you'll want to pulley down, but that would also mean injectors too. If you did a cam, you'd get much closer. Talk to Andy @ ADM -- he can give you an idea of what you'd need to do to meet your goals.

I did Heads, Cam, Headers, CAI -- and I'm just over 590 RWHP on Stock Pulleys making 6 PSI boost.

-Don

*mlee* · 03-22-2016, 04:51 PM

Get a S/C with a hub already on it so you can easily swap pulleys when you want.

supergt99 · 03-23-2016, 06:03 AM

definitely pully down now. i have long tube headers,full exhaust and ls9 cam. with 2.75 pulley im seeing 9-10 psi. havnt had it on the dyno but i imagine its around 580-590rwhp.

CJandtheSS · 03-23-2016, 09:09 AM

Is the pulley/injectors going to effect reliability with high mileage driving? I currently drive ~18K a year.

hammdo · 03-23-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CJandtheSS

Is the pulley/injectors going to effect reliability with high mileage driving? I currently drive ~18K a year.

Now, there are many that have done it. The tune is very important to the reliability...

-Don

sscamaro · 03-23-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CJandtheSS

Hello all I am currently looking to upgrade to a LSA conversion from ADM. I'm looking at the stage one kit and wanted to know besides the intake, ZL1 pump/BAP, and the crank pinning kit am I missing anything else for the install? Additionally, I am looking to make 550rwhp. I currently have headers installed and wanted to know if the stock pulley would be enough to get me there and also how much of a PITA is it to replace if the time comes. Thanks guys.

With the LSA conversion, you will not need a BAP with the ZL1 Pump. I have the E-Force S/C which is 2.3 liter S/C and the LSA is 1.9 liter. See my mods below. I'm at 546/rwhp.

*mlee* · 03-23-2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CJandtheSS

Is the pulley/injectors going to effect reliability with high mileage driving? I currently drive ~18K a year.

Not at all. They only come into affect when at WOT when you need it.

CJandtheSS · 03-24-2016, 06:54 PM

What I be able to drive the car to the tuner after the install?

hammdo · 03-24-2016, 08:03 PM

You'll need a startup tune for sure. You don't want to start it with the stock tune.

Many tuners know how to do that for you (GPI, Jannetty, RDP, Southwest Speed, etc.)

-Don

03-21-2016, 11:59 AM	#1
CJandtheSS Drives: 2012 Victory Red Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 147	LSA Conversion Question Hello all I am currently looking to upgrade to a LSA conversion from ADM. I'm looking at the stage one kit and wanted to know besides the intake, ZL1 pump/BAP, and the crank pinning kit am I missing anything else for the install? Additionally, I am looking to make 550rwhp. I currently have headers installed and wanted to know if the stock pulley would be enough to get me there and also how much of a PITA is it to replace if the time comes. Thanks guys. __________________ 2012 Victory Red 2SS/RS: Roto-Fab CAI, Long Tubes, HF Cats. Corsa Catback, Hurst Short Throw, LSA Supercharged, ADM 3-belt Conversion, LS3 TB, Reinforced Brick, 2.55 Griptec upper, ATI Super Damper, 10% lower OD, 1000cc FIC Injectors, ZL1 Fuel pump and 305 MT ET S/S. 575/599

03-22-2016, 04:04 PM	#3
nosmr2 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 500	Andy did my conversion. I have a L99, so not quite the same base HP as you. He dyno'd me at 501 with the SC, intake, headers and a tune. YMMV. __________________ 2011 SS ADM LSA Conversion

03-22-2016, 04:14 PM	#4
EM1/SS Drives: 11 2SS/RS M6 vert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NSB, FL Posts: 705	My LS3 is on the dyno now after installing the ADM kit. It is right at 500 hp at the wheels. It might be a little higher when it's done, but probably not too much. __________________ LSA supercharger, Borla S-Type cat back, BMR/ Pedders Suspension, Kooks stepped LT's, GM 3.91, and RDP tune.

03-22-2016, 04:50 PM	#6
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709	No, you'll want to pulley down, but that would also mean injectors too. If you did a cam, you'd get much closer. Talk to Andy @ ADM -- he can give you an idea of what you'd need to do to meet your goals. I did Heads, Cam, Headers, CAI -- and I'm just over 590 RWHP on Stock Pulleys making 6 PSI boost. -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

03-22-2016, 04:51 PM	#7
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 38,062	Get a S/C with a hub already on it so you can easily swap pulleys when you want. __________________

03-22-2016, 03:57 PM	#2
gennro Drives: 2011 Black 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Nevada Posts: 53	Well I just did the kit. It does come with the jig to pin the crank. You will need to get a ZL1 compatible intake and some NGK TR7 sparkplugs. I do know on my setup with the stock pulley with running a full exhaust and stock engine I get 4 psi. With that I have plenty of fuel for that. Changing the pulley requires pulling the snout from the supercharger which is a pain. I would imagine and that is just me guessing right now since I have not had time to get on a dyno yet I am somewhere between 500 to 550 whp to the wheels.

03-22-2016, 04:17 PM	#5
gennro Drives: 2011 Black 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Nevada Posts: 53	Yeah I am guessing close to the 500 to 520 whp at the wheels with that stock pulley seems more likely with the manual.

03-23-2016, 06:03 AM	#8
supergt99 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: earth Posts: 288	definitely pully down now. i have long tube headers,full exhaust and ls9 cam. with 2.75 pulley im seeing 9-10 psi. havnt had it on the dyno but i imagine its around 580-590rwhp.

03-23-2016, 09:09 AM	#9
CJandtheSS Drives: 2012 Victory Red Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 147	Is the pulley/injectors going to effect reliability with high mileage driving? I currently drive ~18K a year. __________________ 2012 Victory Red 2SS/RS: Roto-Fab CAI, Long Tubes, HF Cats. Corsa Catback, Hurst Short Throw, LSA Supercharged, ADM 3-belt Conversion, LS3 TB, Reinforced Brick, 2.55 Griptec upper, ATI Super Damper, 10% lower OD, 1000cc FIC Injectors, ZL1 Fuel pump and 305 MT ET S/S. 575/599

03-24-2016, 06:54 PM	#13
CJandtheSS Drives: 2012 Victory Red Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 147	What I be able to drive the car to the tuner after the install? __________________ 2012 Victory Red 2SS/RS: Roto-Fab CAI, Long Tubes, HF Cats. Corsa Catback, Hurst Short Throw, LSA Supercharged, ADM 3-belt Conversion, LS3 TB, Reinforced Brick, 2.55 Griptec upper, ATI Super Damper, 10% lower OD, 1000cc FIC Injectors, ZL1 Fuel pump and 305 MT ET S/S. 575/599

03-24-2016, 08:03 PM	#14
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709	You'll need a startup tune for sure. You don't want to start it with the stock tune. Many tuners know how to do that for you (GPI, Jannetty, RDP, Southwest Speed, etc.) -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577