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Old 02-12-2014, 10:42 PM   #1
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whats my hp???????

i have an l99 camaro ss with a maggie 2300 supercharger, long tubes,exhaust,cai,zr1 injectors.. and I'm pushing 11# of boost

i went to go get a dyno and i pushed 467hp and 550tq but i ran out of fuel at 5300 rpm

finally got my zl1 fuel pump and it will be a while before i go for a dyno i just wanted some ones opinion on how much hp i would have now that i don't run out of fuel..


any thoughts...
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:40 AM   #2
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Do you have the ADM FPCM or at least a Boost a Pump? I'm assuming not since you didn't list either. If not, you might run out of fuel again. Dangerous setup with that much boost, those mods, and only those small injectors and ZL1 pump by itself. Large injectors will band aid an undersized fuel system a little. You have an undersized system and no band aid. You NEED the ADM FPCM, its parameters entered into your tune and bigger injectors!!

Should push 550 rear wheel through the auto. Don't ever let the tuner push it past about 6300 rpm. mine is set to shift at about the 6200 to 6250 and rev limiter set at 6400. That is max on our AFM lifters.
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:35 AM   #3
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With the right tune on the stock fuel pump and bap you should able to push a lot more HP then that.
I have been running at 586 RWHP 525 TQ for 2 year on the stock pump and bap with 60lb injector at 12lb of boost and 6600 RPM
Running mid 10s in the 1/4 mile

Am not saying to not up grade the fuel but you should able to get more on the stock and bap. Last week I just put in a set of twins and 80lb of injector and retuned pushing over 600 WRHP with the rev set at 7000 RPM.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:54 AM   #4
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Do you have the ADM FPCM or at least a Boost a Pump? I'm assuming not since you didn't list either. If not, you might run out of fuel again. Dangerous setup with that much boost, those mods, and only those small injectors and ZL1 pump by itself. Large injectors will band aid an undersized fuel system a little. You have an undersized system and no band aid. You NEED the ADM FPCM, its parameters entered into your tune and bigger injectors!!

Should push 550 rear wheel through the auto. Don't ever let the tuner push it past about 6300 rpm. mine is set to shift at about the 6200 to 6250 and rev limiter set at 6400. That is max on our AFM lifters.

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Old 02-13-2014, 06:56 AM   #5
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Do you have the ADM FPCM or at least a Boost a Pump? I'm assuming not since you didn't list either. If not, you might run out of fuel again. Dangerous setup with that much boost, those mods, and only those small injectors and ZL1 pump by itself. Large injectors will band aid an undersized fuel system a little. You have an undersized system and no band aid. You NEED the ADM FPCM, its parameters entered into your tune and bigger injectors!!

Should push 550 rear wheel through the auto. Don't ever let the tuner push it past about 6300 rpm. mine is set to shift at about the 6200 to 6250 and rev limiter set at 6400. That is max on our AFM lifters.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:00 AM   #6
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Dynos are tools...so you can't exactly compare one place to another...you need before and after on the same dyno to use it properly. But...ballpark, yeah, I'd say for that boost your whp is low and it's because you are probably dropping fuel pressure. Adm fpcm/zl1 pump plus have your tuner make adjustments that Andy gives you with the fpcm.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:48 AM   #7
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i have an l99 camaro ss with a maggie 2300 supercharger, long tubes,exhaust,cai,zr1 injectors.. and I'm pushing 11# of boost

i went to go get a dyno and i pushed 467hp and 550tq but i ran out of fuel at 5300 rpm

finally got my zl1 fuel pump and it will be a while before i go for a dyno i just wanted some ones opinion on how much hp i would have now that i don't run out of fuel..


any thoughts...
Without sounding sarcastic this is a Bomb with the Fuse Lit.

The injectors are Done at 8.5 PSI boost

11 PSI is too Much for Pump Gas Octane.

The ZL-1 Fuel pump is a Good upgrade when combined with the ADM FPCM and correct tuning.

You should add a ZR-1 3 bar Map sensor, ID-850 injectors, 1 step colder Plugs, and drop the boost to 9 PSI for 93 octane.

All of the L99 Maggie Header, CAI cars we built and tuned with 8.5 PSI boost make 505 RWHP 502 RWTQ within a couple numbers.

This is done with a 3.6 pulley.

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Old 02-13-2014, 08:08 AM   #8
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Do you have the ADM FPCM or at least a Boost a Pump? I'm assuming not since you didn't list either. If not, you might run out of fuel again. Dangerous setup with that much boost, those mods, and only those small injectors and ZL1 pump by itself. Large injectors will band aid an undersized fuel system a little. You have an undersized system and no band aid. You NEED the ADM FPCM, its parameters entered into your tune and bigger injectors!!

Should push 550 rear wheel through the auto. Don't ever let the tuner push it past about 6300 rpm. mine is set to shift at about the 6200 to 6250 and rev limiter set at 6400. That is max on our AFM lifters.
I sent him a data log and he said fuel seems fine now just need bigger injectors.... And yea he has my limiter set at 6100... Idk if I need the bap yet once I get my bugger injector I should know...
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:12 AM   #9
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With the right tune on the stock fuel pump and bap you should able to push a lot more HP then that.
I have been running at 586 RWHP 525 TQ for 2 year on the stock pump and bap with 60lb injector at 12lb of boost and 6600 RPM
Running mid 10s in the 1/4 mile

Am not saying to not up grade the fuel but you should able to get more on the stock and bap. Last week I just put in a set of twins and 80lb of injector and retuned pushing over 600 WRHP with the rev set at 7000 RPM.
Is your car l99 or ls3 and everyone says that 11psi is too much my tuner just said it pulls 1 degree and the supercharger gets hotter faster... He is a real good tuner....
U got some great numbers there on your car
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:21 AM   #10
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Without sounding sarcastic this is a Bomb with the Fuse Lit.

The injectors are Done at 8.5 PSI boost

11 PSI is too Much for Pump Gas Octane.

The ZL-1 Fuel pump is a Good upgrade when combined with the ADM FPCM and correct tuning.

You should add a ZR-1 3 bar Map sensor, ID-850 injectors, 1 step colder Plugs, and drop the boost to 9 PSI for 93 octane.

All of the L99 Maggie Header, CAI cars we built and tuned with 8.5 PSI boost make 505 RWHP 502 RWTQ within a couple numbers.

This is done with a 3.6 pulley.

Ted.
I have the zr1 map and is cause the supercharger came wit the OD cogs that is why I am at 11#... And if it was running bad wouldn't it show it on the dyno/data log
I've asked my tuner if it's dangerous and he said no but that I do need a cam/dod

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We centri guys can get away with more than 11 psi on pump gas because the amount of boost at peak torque is much less. I have heard of guys pushing up to 11 psi on a Maggie on pump gas but they have plenty of fuel, run 93 octane, about 0.5 richer than normal, cold plugs and really fine tune the timing.

If it pulls 1 degree due to iat ok. If you mean it pulled 1 degree due to knock fix it. Any knock is bad news.
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I have the zr1 map and is cause the supercharger came wit the OD cogs that is why I am at 11#... And if it was running bad wouldn't it show it on the dyno/data log
I've asked my tuner if it's dangerous and he said no but that I do need a cam/dod
It did show up, your out of fuel at 5300 RPM.

The most Dangerous situation on boost is Lack of Supporting Fuel supply.

If he said it is not dangerous find another tuner.

You need Larger injectors and fuel pump before you even consider a Cam upgrade.

If your planning a Cam upgrade you have to Up the fuel pump Choice to an LPE Twin pump system instead of the ZL-1 Pump.

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Old 02-13-2014, 09:47 AM   #13
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As said. Fuel is the last thing to skimp on or try to get by without it.
I'm sure the tuner knocked timing out of the car where it goes lean.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:35 AM   #14
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We centri guys can get away with more than 11 psi on pump gas because the amount of boost at peak torque is much less. I have heard of guys pushing up to 11 psi on a Maggie on pump gas but they have plenty of fuel, run 93 octane, about 0.5 richer than normal, cold plugs and really fine tune the timing.

If it pulls 1 degree due to iat ok. If you mean it pulled 1 degree due to knock fix it. Any knock is bad news.
Yea it was lack of iat
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