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shank0668 · 08-19-2008, 11:22 AM

heres mine

asrapid · 08-19-2008, 01:11 PM

How much does that engine weight?

Something like this also wouldn't be bad:-)
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...ad.php?t=96631

Or maybe this
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?i...mellingdx2.jpg

*radz28* · 08-19-2008, 01:12 PM

Dream engine: LS9

Reality engine: LSA at best

I better start saving more $$$...

When I first read this post, I wondered about a big block and such, but that's too old school, IMHO. As much as I've read and researched big blocks, there's just no reason to put that 50 year old tech' in a brand new car. There are so many other options (not necessarily better

) out there, it's almost like taking a few steps back. I mean really, other than cubic inches, there aren't really too many other benefits I can think of off the top of my head. For some perspective, an all-aluminum ZL1 long block weighed as much as a iron headed small block. An L88 was like another 100 lbs. more than that ZL1. Now, consider the Gen. I and Gen. II small blocks weigh almost 60-100 lbs. more than a Gen. III/IV small block, and there's a problem. If you stuff another 100 lbs. of supercharger on top of that Gen. IV, then you have probably more reliability, efficiency, and durability, not to mention more power than a stock ZL1, then you could be taking a step back with the big block. It's known that ZL1s were running 600+ horse' through headers and that in street trim the OEM exhaust choked 'power at least 100+, AND, SAE testing nowadays is more conservative than then. Shoot; I think back then, you were luck to run a water pump, let along power steering pump, alternator, and smog pump. Now, you're testing with manifolds all the accessories, and who knows what else.

I'm all for a 572 big block, but you can probably get almost as much power, I'd venture to say, with an LS9, in stock trim (with headers like you'd run on a 572,) in an all-around better package, and be able to actually drive it on the street. Gen. IV/V power all the way baby!

Now a 427+ Gen. III/IV is a different matter

headpunter · 08-19-2008, 02:13 PM

my perfect engine? LS3 + ls9 heads + maggy = more horsepower then i should be allowed to drive.

*radz28* · 08-19-2008, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headpunter

my perfect engine? LS3 + ls9 heads + maggy = more horsepower then i should be allowed to drive.

Exactamundo

*radz28* · 08-19-2008, 02:28 PM

-headpunter-

BTW, I just noticed your location and laughed! I think I might be able to argue you with my location though, LOL!!!

shank0668 · 08-19-2008, 02:41 PM

http://modernvette.tenmagazines.com/...ticle&aid=3757
this should do the trick

shank0668 · 08-19-2008, 02:45 PM

maggy? whats that

greenrail · 08-19-2008, 02:49 PM

Guess I am an old slug. I will be happy with the LS3. Only change I would make is to rate it at 425 HP. (Seems more appropriate than 422.)

dvnt88 · 08-19-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shank0668

heres mine

Here's my choice, already talking to hotrod builder in town to see if this can be swapped in the new gen 5, if not, then I'll just have to get a MAG S/C and drive it like I stole it. ")

http://www.gmhorsepower.com/Ram-Jet-502.php

*radz28* · 08-19-2008, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shank0668

maggy? whats that

Mag' supercharger (i.e. 1900 or 2300 TVS.)

ckellyme3 · 08-19-2008, 05:57 PM

For me in a new sports car i can only imagine a clean running, relatively gas efficient, and very strong motor. Motors like that are just meant for sticking in hot rods and other older sports cars. The LSA with a blower is all I'm hoping for.

Jamestwilliams · 08-19-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckellyme3

For me in a new sports car i can only imagine a clean running, relatively gas efficient, and very strong motor. Motors like that are just meant for sticking in hot rods and other older sports cars. The LSA with a blower is all I'm hoping for.

I couldn't agree more i guess it just depends what you want to do with the car, were I live there are lots of twisty roads so I'm thinking more along the lines of chassis upgrades, that will give me more benefit than a power boost. Of course I want to drive the car as is first, the SS looks like it could be a very competent street car I don't think the weight will actually hurt it that much.

MajorTom · 08-20-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckellyme3

For me in a new sports car i can only imagine a clean running, relatively gas efficient, and very strong motor.

Agreed. I think the LSA would offer plenty of power in a still manageable package. I don't see the appeal of taking a perfectly good new car and ruining the drivability by putting a 1200hp motor in it. It might be faster in a straight line than a more expensive car, but it would ruin the well put together package. Just not worth it.

08-19-2008, 01:12 PM	#3
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,224 View My Garage	Dream engine: LS9 Reality engine: LSA at best I better start saving more $$$... When I first read this post, I wondered about a big block and such, but that's too old school, IMHO. As much as I've read and researched big blocks, there's just no reason to put that 50 year old tech' in a brand new car. There are so many other options (not necessarily better ) out there, it's almost like taking a few steps back. I mean really, other than cubic inches, there aren't really too many other benefits I can think of off the top of my head. For some perspective, an all-aluminum ZL1 long block weighed as much as a iron headed small block. An L88 was like another 100 lbs. more than that ZL1. Now, consider the Gen. I and Gen. II small blocks weigh almost 60-100 lbs. more than a Gen. III/IV small block, and there's a problem. If you stuff another 100 lbs. of supercharger on top of that Gen. IV, then you have probably more reliability, efficiency, and durability, not to mention more power than a stock ZL1, then you could be taking a step back with the big block. It's known that ZL1s were running 600+ horse' through headers and that in street trim the OEM exhaust choked 'power at least 100+, AND, SAE testing nowadays is more conservative than then. Shoot; I think back then, you were luck to run a water pump, let along power steering pump, alternator, and smog pump. Now, you're testing with manifolds all the accessories, and who knows what else. I'm all for a 572 big block, but you can probably get almost as much power, I'd venture to say, with an LS9, in stock trim (with headers like you'd run on a 572,) in an all-around better package, and be able to actually drive it on the street. Gen. IV/V power all the way baby! Now a 427+ Gen. III/IV is a different matter __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs Last edited by radz28; 08-19-2008 at 01:25 PM.

08-19-2008, 02:28 PM	#6
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,224 View My Garage	-headpunter- BTW, I just noticed your location and laughed! I think I might be able to argue you with my location though, LOL!!! __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-19-2008, 02:49 PM	#9
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,395	Guess I am an old slug. I will be happy with the LS3. Only change I would make is to rate it at 425 HP. (Seems more appropriate than 422.) __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

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08-19-2008, 01:11 PM	#2
asrapid Drives: Stratus Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 75	How much does that engine weight? Something like this also wouldn't be bad:-) http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...ad.php?t=96631 Or maybe this http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?i...mellingdx2.jpg

08-19-2008, 02:13 PM	#4
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,747 View My Garage	my perfect engine? LS3 + ls9 heads + maggy = more horsepower then i should be allowed to drive.

08-19-2008, 02:41 PM	#7
shank0668 Drives: '14 LML/'06 LJ/'76 Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,438 View My Garage	http://modernvette.tenmagazines.com/...ticle&aid=3757 this should do the trick

08-19-2008, 02:45 PM	#8
shank0668 Drives: '14 LML/'06 LJ/'76 Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,438 View My Garage	maggy? whats that

08-19-2008, 05:57 PM	#12
ckellyme3 Drives: 1986 IROC 406 stroker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: exton pa Posts: 150	For me in a new sports car i can only imagine a clean running, relatively gas efficient, and very strong motor. Motors like that are just meant for sticking in hot rods and other older sports cars. The LSA with a blower is all I'm hoping for.