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![]() Drives: 2010 Camaro 1ss/rs Join Date: Mar 2009
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Kennebell or Magnacharger??
Pros and cons for both would be apriciated...
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i don,t really believe there is a bad sc on the market..i have the kb, and personally i bght it as i believe the twin screws have a slight edge...also i think it looks tougher ..but maggies are def less expensive and will prob do all you need and there is prob more support for maggies as they have been on market longer..good luck ... jmo.
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Both top notch SC's on the market, for the C5 specifically the MagnaCharger has been proven reliable and has been push to the extreme with several of the performance comapany's!
Get your best price on the MAGNACHARGER from Tim & TandTPerformance.com He just installed my SC and more power than I expected.
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Location: Northern Virginia
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I just spent the past couple of months doing the research. I ordered a Kenne Bell 2.8L yesterday. Here are my insights on the 2 systems from shopping around. It took me a long time to decide.
Many more vendors for Maggie than KB. I was able to find the Maggie tvs2300 for 5700 and tvs1900 for 4900. PM me for the details. Much less give on the KB. When comparing the 2 make sure you are comparing apple to apples. The KB comes with the CAI and the Boost A Pump. The maggie does not. At some point you will have to address the fuel system. What are your ultimate power goals? How will you use the car? I chose the KB because I intend to build the car slowly to get the most out of the blower that I can. From what I was able to gather from pms from owners of the 2 systems, if properly installed both systems are reliable. So no real break point there. |
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Any other opinions? Benefits of one over the other?
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The only issue I had when searching was that individual shops tend to recommend what they are familiar with. I chose the KB after speaking with Midgard, Speedster, and many others.
Midgard has a fully built car that was done at livernois. Andy there can discuss what your specific goals are. That's the real determining factor. Midgard started with the maggie and eventually reached the limits of the system. He has recently installed the KB 3.6L SC. Now his build is much more extensive than what most people will want. I will let him speak to the specifics of his build. The only reason I mention it, is that my only fear with the maggie was that eventually I'ld build the motor and be limited by the blower. So I chose the KB. I know that many tuners are getting tons of power out of the maggies and they are reliable. I'm no expert. Someone with more knowledge please chime in. |
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Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Franklin, TN
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My L99 is a daily driver. I just wanted to improve all aspects of the car. I am going with the TVS 2300. You won't find me at the track, unless I am just there to watch.
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Drives: 2x 05 Vettes/65'AC cobra/68 camaro Join Date: Apr 2009
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Well i can tell you from a performance stand point that the KB has alot higher IATs, and we have seen issues with them. the magnachargers we have never had to ever send one back to get fixed for any reason. The KB will make more HP in the end though...so there is +s and -s for both. but if its 100% dependability and longevity of the blower your looking for get the Maggie.
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Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SoCal
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Kenne Bell all the way. PERIOD. The Kenne Bell is a far superior product at all angles. Shops will push the other brands because they can make more profit and can sell them over the net. Kenne Bell sells factory direct, or you can buy from an authorized installing dealer. Kenne Bell has been the top dog in power,reliabilty,and on the leading edge for years. Heres a link for some good info http://kennebell.net/superchargers/gm/Camaro/Camaro.htm Thanks Adam
On a side note, SpankinTime Motorsports does on site installs at an extra cost for those who do not have a shop nearby, or trust. Quality installation by an authorized Kenne Bell installer on site. I could go on about the difference, but this battle has been done several times already. There is a reason why the fastest guys run KB's. |
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Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SoCal
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I've already had to edit two posts in here where one sponsor wants to take a shot at another. It's that stuff that gets the threads deleted or closed. Believe me, I want nothing more than to weigh out the benefits and drawbacks of either unit. I am a guy who WILL eventually be installing a supercharger. Which one remains to be seen. I know there are many others who feel the same way. Several of my buds have maggies. They love them. They say they are 100% dependable and work wonderfully. No one I know personally owns a KB. So, I know I get an honest opinion from Jamie or Chris, etc. But, what about the KB? I want to read the technical info. I wish I could see "x" person stick to THEIR facts and say, "our product does....and the benefits are...which is why I believe in THIS product...." Rather than say, "it's better than the "y" supercharger because THEIR product does not....yadda yadda... I hope that makes sense. I want KB sponsors and owners to be able to talk up KB products just like I want Maggie sponsors and owners to be able to talk up THEIR maggies. I'm not looking for everyone to cheap shot each other which seems to happen no matter what. I just want some freaking good conversation. I just wish everyone could play nice. Technical info ONLY. Nothing more. |
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What Doug said.
It seems to me they're both about neck-and-neck until you start getting past about 10 psi or something. Crowley's gotten great numbers out of his car with the Maggy and a little more boost. I really don't know there's going to be a difference unless your goal is to eventually push past 700 horse'. If you're just going to be running low boost, there's little to no big difference. I like the points about intake and fuel. I know it won't take much to run CAI on the Maggy, but you loose their warranty and can get into smog isssues, if you live in certain areas. The KB is (or already has and I haven't noticed) seeking to pass the smog issues but already has a great complete intake system that's upgradable with a huge filter. The fuel is addressed, to a point, with the KB. I know where I want to be with power, and it's going to come down to price, really, for me. I know I'll be able to get more power out of the box with the KB (due to the points above) and there's probably going to be a little more headroom with the KB, but I'll never get there, so it's not too big a deal. I really wanted to see a good, fair, apples-to-apples comparison. Monitor boost, IATs, parasitic losses, power, torque, and all that other stuff. I'm in the same boat as Doug in that I'm looking to learn a lot more from less bias points of view. If we could only get the $$$ for all the trouble for Jannetti to do something like this, LOL!!!
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009
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I've seen both kits installed and dyno'd on similar builds. I don't think you can go wrong with either kit. Looks wise, I like the KB. Power throught the power band is close. I don't think I could afford to excede the limits of either SC with the high cost's involved in divorce in CA after my wife found out.
![]() My final decision is going to come down to what looks best sitting in my engine compartment. When both units have great gains and are very close from mash-red line, You've got to go with what you would be the most comfortable maintaining and looking at. For me, right now, the choice would be KB. I know I would have to drop the pulley size to keep from rubbing my fire blanket, but I want over 600rwhp anyway and you have to do that with either kit to get there.
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