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Scott@Bjorn3D · 12-06-2008, 07:50 AM

ARGGG.

Ok had to get that out of my system. Live in a small town of 12000 folks. The dealer says he is alloted 1 car. I know he has 3 buyers that have put down a deposit.

I surely hope GM does build the cars that are sold and send them to those dealers. If I can't get mine because of some silly allotment I am going to be very sad. Yes I have cheked other dealers in 100 mile radius and they all want 3-10K mark up on the car. They have plenty of allotment they tell me to be sold.

I am not stupid and going to pay over MSRP. Scott I hope you read this and can give some input on how GM handles this. Do really sold cars get delivered first?

Thanks
Scott

TomServo · 12-06-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

ARGGG.

Ok had to get that out of my system. Live in a small town of 12000 folks. The dealer says he is alloted 1 car. I know he has 3 buyers that have put down a deposit.

I surely hope GM does build the cars that are sold and send them to those dealers. If I can't get mine because of some silly allotment I am going to be very sad. Yes I have cheked other dealers in 100 mile radius and they all want 3-10K mark up on the car. They have plenty of allotment they tell me to be sold.

I am not stupid and going to pay over MSRP. Scott I hope you read this and can give some input on how GM handles this. Do really sold cars get delivered first?

Thanks
Scott

My dealer in Southern Illinois has 4 or 5 of his 9 allocations still for sale and selling for MSRP. IL isn't that far from Al.

ZombieEatsYou · 12-06-2008, 08:31 AM

...have it drop shipped to your local dealer?

CatiaJockey · 12-06-2008, 08:34 AM

Did you Check U-J Chevrolet in Mobile? I'm in Mississippi and bought mine there, great place to do business.

ron8879 · 12-06-2008, 09:56 AM

Since Tomservo lives in swansea IL, I think he is talking about the ofallon IL dealership (which I am #2 of those 4 or 5 sold) I would get on yellowpages.com and give them a call. You may have to travel some, but that just gives you a little drive to break it in. My expierence with them so far has been good. Good luck scott

CatiaJockey · 12-06-2008, 11:35 AM

Reply from U-J Chevrolet Mobile, Alabama
We have 4 or 5 pre-orders left of our 15. We would love to get your friend on the list. Let us know when you are ready and we would be happy to assist.

Thanks,
David Sharp
251-633-3321

CamaroScotty · 12-06-2008, 11:39 AM

That was "estimated" allocation. Why don't they just get the orders in? There is nothing stopping them.

RallyFever · 12-06-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ron8879

Since Tomservo lives in swansea IL, I think he is talking about the ofallon IL dealership (which I am #2 of those 4 or 5 sold) I would get on yellowpages.com and give them a call. You may have to travel some, but that just gives you a little drive to break it in. My expierence with them so far has been good. Good luck scott

Sounds like your screwed and should also be looking at the yellow pages ads.

If the dealer is getting one and your number two then you don't get a car until at least 4th qtr, sport.

Either you not in a hurry or your hoping GM's estimate is low and maybe you'll see something 3rd qtr.

teamlynn1 · 12-06-2008, 01:03 PM

They will send cars to dealers who earned the allocation regardless of how many orders a particular dealer has. Here is why, lets say a guy like me know the camaros will sell quickly at first what would stop me from submitting 25 dummy orders to garner those vehciles for myself to sell? Chevy has an allocation system they come up with based on performance in a few different areas depending on what model it is typically it will be previous model sales but they factor in other things as well. I dont like it either but am just trying to explain it to you. There will be mnay of you have have "ordered" your Camaros who will not get them next year and there will be some of you who walk into a dealership and buy one right off the showrooom floor. Sad but true. I agree they should fill ALL confirmed sold orders. I am hearing that everyone who earned allocation are all going to get just 1 at first starting on the west coast and moving east. Then the next wave will have a few more of your earned allocation in them. I was told that NO one was getting multiple Camaros on the first shipment. This was not good news but was expected none the less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

ARGGG.

Ok had to get that out of my system. Live in a small town of 12000 folks. The dealer says he is alloted 1 car. I know he has 3 buyers that have put down a deposit.

I surely hope GM does build the cars that are sold and send them to those dealers. If I can't get mine because of some silly allotment I am going to be very sad. Yes I have cheked other dealers in 100 mile radius and they all want 3-10K mark up on the car. They have plenty of allotment they tell me to be sold.

I am not stupid and going to pay over MSRP. Scott I hope you read this and can give some input on how GM handles this. Do really sold cars get delivered first?

Thanks
Scott

*The_Blur* · 12-06-2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamlynn1

They will send cars to dealers who earned the allocation regardless of how many orders a particular dealer has. Here is why, lets say a guy like me know the camaros will sell quickly at first what would stop me from submitting 25 dummy orders to garner those vehciles for myself to sell? Chevy has an allocation system they come up with based on performance in a few different areas depending on what model it is typically it will be previous model sales but they factor in other things as well. I dont like it either but am just trying to explain it to you. There will be mnay of you have have "ordered" your Camaros who will not get them next year and there will be some of you who walk into a dealership and buy one right off the showrooom floor. Sad but true. I agree they should fill ALL confirmed sold orders. I am hearing that everyone who earned allocation are all going to get just 1 at first starting on the west coast and moving east. Then the next wave will have a few more of your earned allocation in them. I was told that NO one was getting multiple Camaros on the first shipment. This was not good news but was expected none the less.

It's frustrating, but it makes sense that they would want to spread out the initial shipments as much as possible. If they spread them out, it will be like street advertising. That will generate interest in the new, rare car, and people will place more orders. There's probably a much better system for responding to orders, but this method generates interest in the product.

Maybe someone from GM would be better able to explain this approach.

TomServo · 12-06-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron8879

Since Tomservo lives in swansea IL, I think he is talking about the ofallon IL dealership (which I am #2 of those 4 or 5 sold) I would get on yellowpages.com and give them a call. You may have to travel some, but that just gives you a little drive to break it in. My expierence with them so far has been good. Good luck scott

Yup, call 618-589-4062 ask for Tim Schuhardt he'll fix you up. I bought 6 Corvette's from them.

teamlynn1 · 12-06-2008, 03:42 PM

you are exactly right the spreading the initial ones out will indeed build up demand in all regions and increase overall sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur

It's frustrating, but it makes sense that they would want to spread out the initial shipments as much as possible. If they spread them out, it will be like street advertising. That will generate interest in the new, rare car, and people will place more orders. There's probably a much better system for responding to orders, but this method generates interest in the product.

Maybe someone from GM would be better able to explain this approach.

Inspector 17 · 12-06-2008, 05:57 PM

All, I just think there are too many unknowns at this time for us to make any clear conclusions about how this is going to roll out. The original allotment numbers seem to have been removed from the launch site (posted in another thread here) and it was rumored that they were being "adjusted" based on the pre-order demand. So that, along with what specific cars they can produce starting when (V6 vs. V8), production capacity (cars per day), production ramp, etc, will all come into play. It certainly is fun to speculate though.

Captain Awesome · 12-07-2008, 12:10 AM

Let me get this straight....

A dealer can submit orders beyond what they are allocated? There's nothing stopping them from placing an order?

So, what if there are dealers out there with an allocation of say 10 cars and 30 guys come in to "order". The clever dealer says "Better hurry, I only have one left!" to all 30 guys, and all 30 guys plunk down a $1000 deposit to get "the last one".

It SOUNDS like we have a situation where 20 guys were duped into placing a deposit on a car that was entered into the order system BEYOND the dealers allocation, and they were told they were actually one of the allocated cars. When the cars DON'T get pulled for build because they were not allocated, the 20 guys each get told some long winded story about SS or leather or Wheels or some option being on "Constraint" and it might take a while to get the order built.

In theory, some seedy dealer could be raking in deposits for Camaros which they cannot possibly fullfil, leaving buyers in limbo until the order is eventually built... and out of a depost all the while.

What proof can a customer get that his order was actually within the dealer's allocatiion?!?!?!

12-06-2008, 07:50 AM	#1
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	I say GM Forget Allotments and send to dealers with sold cars. ARGGG. Ok had to get that out of my system. Live in a small town of 12000 folks. The dealer says he is alloted 1 car. I know he has 3 buyers that have put down a deposit. I surely hope GM does build the cars that are sold and send them to those dealers. If I can't get mine because of some silly allotment I am going to be very sad. Yes I have cheked other dealers in 100 mile radius and they all want 3-10K mark up on the car. They have plenty of allotment they tell me to be sold. I am not stupid and going to pay over MSRP. Scott I hope you read this and can give some input on how GM handles this. Do really sold cars get delivered first? Thanks Scott

12-06-2008, 08:34 AM	#4
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12-06-2008, 09:56 AM	#5
ron8879 Drives: 2018 Camaro RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Centralia MO Posts: 423	Since Tomservo lives in swansea IL, I think he is talking about the ofallon IL dealership (which I am #2 of those 4 or 5 sold) I would get on yellowpages.com and give them a call. You may have to travel some, but that just gives you a little drive to break it in. My expierence with them so far has been good. Good luck scott __________________ Fifty years from now, when you're looking back at your life, don't you want to be able to say you had the guts to get in the car?" : *HOTROD2010 VR RPO 14568...flowmaster exhaust, color matched antenna and drip rails, barton shifter, 4 pack gauges, leather armrest, color matched spoiler, and emblem delete, 20x9 chrome wheels HOTROD2018*...RS camaro LT1 Npp Exhaust, SS front brakes package and cooling packaage, black bowties, more updates to come!

12-06-2008, 11:35 AM	#6
CatiaJockey Drives: 2010 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ocean Springs, Ms Posts: 2,799 View My Garage	Reply from U-J Chevrolet Mobile, Alabama We have 4 or 5 pre-orders left of our 15. We would love to get your friend on the list. Let us know when you are ready and we would be happy to assist. Thanks, David Sharp 251-633-3321 __________________

12-06-2008, 08:31 AM	#3
ZombieEatsYou Drives: "Bmblbee" 2010 RY 2SS/RS. VIN 12043 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Waldorf, Maryland Posts: 1,266 View My Garage	...have it drop shipped to your local dealer?

12-06-2008, 11:39 AM	#7
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,790	That was "estimated" allocation. Why don't they just get the orders in? There is nothing stopping them.

12-06-2008, 05:57 PM	#13
Inspector 17 I love crepes Drives: 2017 ZL1 NGM A10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,955 View My Garage	All, I just think there are too many unknowns at this time for us to make any clear conclusions about how this is going to roll out. The original allotment numbers seem to have been removed from the launch site (posted in another thread here) and it was rumored that they were being "adjusted" based on the pre-order demand. So that, along with what specific cars they can produce starting when (V6 vs. V8), production capacity (cars per day), production ramp, etc, will all come into play. It certainly is fun to speculate though.

12-07-2008, 12:10 AM	#14
Captain Awesome Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,746	Let me get this straight.... A dealer can submit orders beyond what they are allocated? There's nothing stopping them from placing an order? So, what if there are dealers out there with an allocation of say 10 cars and 30 guys come in to "order". The clever dealer says "Better hurry, I only have one left!" to all 30 guys, and all 30 guys plunk down a $1000 deposit to get "the last one". It SOUNDS like we have a situation where 20 guys were duped into placing a deposit on a car that was entered into the order system BEYOND the dealers allocation, and they were told they were actually one of the allocated cars. When the cars DON'T get pulled for build because they were not allocated, the 20 guys each get told some long winded story about SS or leather or Wheels or some option being on "Constraint" and it might take a while to get the order built. In theory, some seedy dealer could be raking in deposits for Camaros which they cannot possibly fullfil, leaving buyers in limbo until the order is eventually built... and out of a depost all the while. What proof can a customer get that his order was actually within the dealer's allocatiion?!?!?!