JRE MAGGIE MAX STAGE 1 VS 2 RESULTS 727 RWHP - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

JANNETTYRACING · 12-20-2011, 05:01 PM

I am testing a lot of combinations to see what is most efficient at making power and I think we got a good combo now

I pulley'd up to a 3.4 from a 3.2 so this dyno grahp shows the Maggie Max Stage 1 with 3.2 pulley VS Maggie Max Stage 2 with 3.4 pulley

I have recorded much lower IAT, Less Boost, More Power Flatter boost lines.

L99 JRE Smooth Idle blower cam, Forged Rods and Pistons Only, LT headers, Magnacharger 2300, Innovators west 8 rib 10% overdrive, Overdrive Cog kit, ID850 injectors, Maggie Max Stage 2 16 PSI boost 100 octane unleaded.

727 RWHP 685 RWTQ on 16 PSI.

ESSENTIALLY WE'RE UP 75 RWHP ON SAME BOOST LEVEL FROM JUST THE STAGE 2 PACKAGE.

You can see from this Graph the GREEN boost curves.

The top green line represents the 3.2 pulley with STAGE 1, you see it falls hard at the top, this is what we were chasing and thought was belt slip but We Now Know it is NOT, It is an Air flow restriction within the blower that the RDS Spacer addresses.

We Pulley'd up to 3.4 and the STAGE 2 Maggie Max package and you see the boost line is Flatter and carries right to 7000 RPM.

I am testing some other Items so More To Come

Gotthat02fire · 12-20-2011, 05:06 PM

Dam good job Ted sounds like fun Stage 5 here we come!!!
P.S. Christmas Gift in the mail might be a couple days late snail mail anyway!!!

BLACK10 · 12-20-2011, 05:14 PM

I would have thought that setup would make well over 750? Still impressive though!

JANNETTYRACING · 12-20-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

I would have thought that setup would make well over 750? Still impressive though!

Remember this is an Automatic 376.

An LS3 Will Easily do it.

There is More Left in it but I will visit that at a later date.

BLACK10 · 12-20-2011, 05:16 PM

Ah, sorry i missed that. How much timing?

old motorhead · 12-20-2011, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Remember this is an Automatic 376.

An LS3 Will Easily do it.

There is More Left in it but I will visit that at a later date.

Nice work! Can you elaborate a little more on the IAT improvements and the lower boost? I'm interested. What would the power numbers be on an M6 car?

JANNETTYRACING · 12-20-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gotthat02fire

Dam good job Ted sounds like fun Stage 5 here we come!!!
P.S. Christmas Gift in the mail might be a couple days late snail mail anyway!!!

Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to you, I will keep an eye out, Hope it gets here before we close for the week.

Ted.

JANNETTYRACING · 12-20-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

Nice work! Can you elaborate a little more on the IAT improvements and the lower boost? I'm interested. What would the power numbers be on an M6 car?

There is a Point with every blower that you get diminishing returns due to parasitic loss and Heat production.

By addressing the Flow restrictions with this Package we increase power, lower IAT and Lower Parasitic losses.

Making the flow path more flow friendly we reduce Surface Friction.

The results are nothing less than Stellar.

Ted.

Slowhawk · 12-20-2011, 09:16 PM

Whats the static compression of the motor now?

FloMoCamaro · 12-21-2011, 09:14 AM

Have you measured how many Liters the the spacer gives you in addition to the 2.3L? I'm wondering how close it is to the 2.9L in the Whipple? I'm thinking they should be pretty close to each other, so now, you can start comparing apples to apples (with appropriate pulleys of course). Nice work Ted - I would love to see the comparison dyno graphs.

JANNETTYRACING · 12-21-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FloMoCamaro

Have you measured how many Liters the the spacer gives you in addition to the 2.3L? I'm wondering how close it is to the 2.9L in the Whipple? I'm thinking they should be pretty close to each other, so now, you can start comparing apples to apples (with appropriate pulleys of course). Nice work Ted - I would love to see the comparison dyno graphs.

The spacer does not affect the Blower Liters that is fixed by the rotor length.

What it does do is increase Plenum volume by quite a bit, I have not calculated how much, Just not proficient at Trig

jasycz28 · 12-21-2011, 10:12 AM

How much longer are the ID850 injectors going to be good for?

Supercharged SS · 12-21-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jasycz28

How much longer are the ID850 injectors going to be good for?

Hopefully long enough!!

JANNETTYRACING · 12-21-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jasycz28

How much longer are the ID850 injectors going to be good for?

Time wise forever, HP wise up to 1K rwhp

12-20-2011, 05:01 PM	#1
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,410	JRE MAGGIE MAX STAGE 1 VS 2 RESULTS 727 RWHP I am testing a lot of combinations to see what is most efficient at making power and I think we got a good combo now I pulley'd up to a 3.4 from a 3.2 so this dyno grahp shows the Maggie Max Stage 1 with 3.2 pulley VS Maggie Max Stage 2 with 3.4 pulley I have recorded much lower IAT, Less Boost, More Power Flatter boost lines. L99 JRE Smooth Idle blower cam, Forged Rods and Pistons Only, LT headers, Magnacharger 2300, Innovators west 8 rib 10% overdrive, Overdrive Cog kit, ID850 injectors, Maggie Max Stage 2 16 PSI boost 100 octane unleaded. 727 RWHP 685 RWTQ on 16 PSI. ESSENTIALLY WE'RE UP 75 RWHP ON SAME BOOST LEVEL FROM JUST THE STAGE 2 PACKAGE. You can see from this Graph the GREEN boost curves. The top green line represents the 3.2 pulley with STAGE 1, you see it falls hard at the top, this is what we were chasing and thought was belt slip but We Now Know it is NOT, It is an Air flow restriction within the blower that the RDS Spacer addresses. We Pulley'd up to 3.4 and the STAGE 2 Maggie Max package and you see the boost line is Flatter and carries right to 7000 RPM. I am testing some other Items so More To Come Attached Images __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 39 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com Last edited by JANNETTYRACING; 12-21-2011 at 09:57 AM.

12-20-2011, 05:06 PM	#2
Gotthat02fire Drives: 2010 Camaro 1ss IOM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Williamsport,PA Posts: 2,246 View My Garage	Dam good job Ted sounds like fun Stage 5 here we come!!! P.S. Christmas Gift in the mail might be a couple days late snail mail anyway!!! __________________ Jannetty Racing Built and Tuned 416 Maggie Max Package even better now!

12-21-2011, 09:14 AM	#10
FloMoCamaro Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Flower Mound, TX Posts: 490 View My Garage	Have you measured how many Liters the the spacer gives you in addition to the 2.3L? I'm wondering how close it is to the 2.9L in the Whipple? I'm thinking they should be pretty close to each other, so now, you can start comparing apples to apples (with appropriate pulleys of course). Nice work Ted - I would love to see the comparison dyno graphs. __________________

12-21-2011, 10:12 AM	#12
jasycz28 J.Sick Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 965	How much longer are the ID850 injectors going to be good for? __________________ "J.Sick" 2010 Camaro 2SS

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