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HAMBO · 09-02-2015, 09:26 PM

Anyone here who does waterless (or even rinseless) washes, do you use something to remove dust prior to the wash (i.e. per Junkman's advice)?

I saw some other threads debating whether to use a California Duster to remove dust before a WW or RW (as Junkman and some others do on YouTube), and clearly there are a lot of mixed feelings about the Cal Duster, but what about using something else like compressed air in a can or a small air blower or master blaster to remove dust? Or do you go straight to the WW spray and towel?

Just curious what others do.

Thanks

Joe M 2012 2SS · 09-02-2015, 09:53 PM

A California duster used the way AJ demonstrates in his video is absolutely fine. Compressed air would just scatter the dust, some eventually returning on the surface of your car.

Nor Cal ZL1 · 09-02-2015, 10:09 PM

I go straight to waterless if its is just garage dust. Been using Blackfire waterless and I love that product. If its more than garage dust I will do a rinseless with Blackfire rinseless, presoaking bugs and such with waterless before hitting the area last with rinsless. I can understand the want to remove as much as possible before starting but I have a coated car and a duster would just streak up the coating. I use the same method on our other non coated cars and don't have any issues with swirls or scratches. Good product, technique, and microfibers will do the trick. Here is the waterless kit I use.
http://www.autogeek.net/waterless-car-wash-kit1.html

scandata · 09-03-2015, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HAMBO

Anyone here who does waterless (or even rinseless) washes, do you use something to remove dust prior to the wash (i.e. per Junkman's advice)?

Or as the Junkman calls it, Waterless Warsh"! (Not making fun of the man, he's joked about it himself)

camguynj · 09-03-2015, 07:14 AM

Cali duster before RW every time unless pollen covered.

HAMBO · 09-03-2015, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the input. Anyone use something else like a leaf blower to remove dust instead?

HAMBO · 09-04-2015, 01:13 PM

Alright, after doing a bit more reading and experimenting I've decided I won't be using the CA Duster prior to a typical RW or WW.

I am not knocking the product (nor anyone's much appreciated advice), but I know I'm quite an amateur at this stuff, and as a general rule I try to stay away from products that are easy to use improperly and cause damage with; this seems to fall into that category.

Seems like if you use it in the exact right situation (with literally only dust and zero dirt), with the exact right technique, it can help you remove dust prior to WW cleaning. But I don't have the exact technique down, nor do I have the right lighting / eye to detect the exact right situation, so the chance for creating swirls seems too high.

Seems to me lubricating dust or very light dirt on the car, and lubricating the towel, is a sensible way to remove dust or very light dirt. And while maybe not perfect, the lubrication adds safety / provides some forgiveness. Anything beyond very light dirt just go straight to a wash.

Kens ss · 09-04-2015, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAMBO

Thanks for the input. Anyone use something else like a leaf blower to remove dust instead?

I start with leaf blower, I find it removes a significant amount of dust
Then a use the cal duster
before continueing

nUcLeArEnVoY · 09-12-2015, 09:09 PM

If you're afraid of the viability of a waterless wash, then don't do a waterless wash, do a rinseless wash.

A rinseless wash still involves filling up a bucket with water, but it ends there. Use ONR (Optimum No Rinse) in a bucket of water. Much less likely to induce swirl marks than using a waterless wash, since a waterless wash is almost like QD'ing your car while it's dirty. Not a good idea. Doing a rinseless wash instead is a much better idea, even if it is only slightly more inconvenient.

09-02-2015, 09:26 PM	#1
HAMBO Drives: Supercharged 2013 AGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 786	Removing dust before waterless wash? Anyone here who does waterless (or even rinseless) washes, do you use something to remove dust prior to the wash (i.e. per Junkman's advice)? I saw some other threads debating whether to use a California Duster to remove dust before a WW or RW (as Junkman and some others do on YouTube), and clearly there are a lot of mixed feelings about the Cal Duster, but what about using something else like compressed air in a can or a small air blower or master blaster to remove dust? Or do you go straight to the WW spray and towel? Just curious what others do. Thanks __________________ 2013 AGM 2SS/RS SLP TVS2300, Edge CAI, 3" Magnaflow catback, BC Racing BR series coilovers, HRE FF15's (20x10 square) with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's, GM STB, BMR front and rear sway bars and toe links, Prothane subframe bushings and front control arm inserts, JDP rear upper control arm bushings, Elite Engineering catch can. Tuned by Cunningham Motorsports. 1967 Bolero Red 396 SS/RS Convertible

09-03-2015, 01:45 PM	#6
HAMBO Drives: Supercharged 2013 AGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 786	Thanks for the input. Anyone use something else like a leaf blower to remove dust instead? __________________ 2013 AGM 2SS/RS SLP TVS2300, Edge CAI, 3" Magnaflow catback, BC Racing BR series coilovers, HRE FF15's (20x10 square) with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's, GM STB, BMR front and rear sway bars and toe links, Prothane subframe bushings and front control arm inserts, JDP rear upper control arm bushings, Elite Engineering catch can. Tuned by Cunningham Motorsports. 1967 Bolero Red 396 SS/RS Convertible

09-04-2015, 01:13 PM	#7
HAMBO Drives: Supercharged 2013 AGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 786	Alright, after doing a bit more reading and experimenting I've decided I won't be using the CA Duster prior to a typical RW or WW. I am not knocking the product (nor anyone's much appreciated advice), but I know I'm quite an amateur at this stuff, and as a general rule I try to stay away from products that are easy to use improperly and cause damage with; this seems to fall into that category. Seems like if you use it in the exact right situation (with literally only dust and zero dirt), with the exact right technique, it can help you remove dust prior to WW cleaning. But I don't have the exact technique down, nor do I have the right lighting / eye to detect the exact right situation, so the chance for creating swirls seems too high. Seems to me lubricating dust or very light dirt on the car, and lubricating the towel, is a sensible way to remove dust or very light dirt. And while maybe not perfect, the lubrication adds safety / provides some forgiveness. Anything beyond very light dirt just go straight to a wash. __________________ 2013 AGM 2SS/RS SLP TVS2300, Edge CAI, 3" Magnaflow catback, BC Racing BR series coilovers, HRE FF15's (20x10 square) with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's, GM STB, BMR front and rear sway bars and toe links, Prothane subframe bushings and front control arm inserts, JDP rear upper control arm bushings, Elite Engineering catch can. Tuned by Cunningham Motorsports. 1967 Bolero Red 396 SS/RS Convertible

09-02-2015, 10:09 PM	#3
Nor Cal ZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,825	I go straight to waterless if its is just garage dust. Been using Blackfire waterless and I love that product. If its more than garage dust I will do a rinseless with Blackfire rinseless, presoaking bugs and such with waterless before hitting the area last with rinsless. I can understand the want to remove as much as possible before starting but I have a coated car and a duster would just streak up the coating. I use the same method on our other non coated cars and don't have any issues with swirls or scratches. Good product, technique, and microfibers will do the trick. Here is the waterless kit I use. http://www.autogeek.net/waterless-car-wash-kit1.html

09-03-2015, 07:14 AM	#5
camguynj Drives: '13 SS/RS LS3 BRM Cammed NPP Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 3,849 View My Garage	Cali duster before RW every time unless pollen covered.

09-12-2015, 09:09 PM	#9
nUcLeArEnVoY Oldbie that nobody knows Drives: 2011 1SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Homestead, FL Posts: 3,459 View My Garage	If you're afraid of the viability of a waterless wash, then don't do a waterless wash, do a rinseless wash. A rinseless wash still involves filling up a bucket with water, but it ends there. Use ONR (Optimum No Rinse) in a bucket of water. Much less likely to induce swirl marks than using a waterless wash, since a waterless wash is almost like QD'ing your car while it's dirty. Not a good idea. Doing a rinseless wash instead is a much better idea, even if it is only slightly more inconvenient.