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mikey1107 · 05-03-2012, 09:02 AM

Has anyone ever looked into if the Corvette ZR-1 or Grand Sport 6 piston calipers will work for a brake upgrade? The J56 Corvette caliper appears to be slightly cheaper than the CTS-V calipers.

PfadtRacing · 05-03-2012, 11:19 AM

While there isn't anything wrong with the Z06/GS calipers themselves but they do require close attention if you're tracking the car. Also be sure that you're running a single continuous pad design with those calipers, the factory pads use a padlet design on either side of the rotor and these have tendency to fail on track... infact we've lost padlets on track before, and it's not a pretty situation.

Our recommendation since we have experience with both setups? Spend the little extra cash and go to the CTS-V setup. It's really a complete bolt in and proven to work, work well, and wont give you the headaches of the stock C6Z/GS Calipers.

mikey1107 · 05-03-2012, 01:22 PM

point taken. I may look a little bit into it too see if a solid/1-piece pad could fit the caliper. If all else fails I will go with the V setup but I think it is still worth a look. Besides, we may not have know that the V setup would work if someone didn't try it. Thanks for the info

PfadtRacing · 05-03-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey1107

point taken. I may look a little bit into it too see if a solid/1-piece pad could fit the caliper. If all else fails I will go with the V setup but I think it is still worth a look. Besides, we may not have know that the V setup would work if someone didn't try it. Thanks for the info

There are single piece pads out there for the Z06. Just keep in mind that the Z06 brakes have never been the cars strong suit for heavy track use, and that's when used on a Corvette chassis at least 500lbs lighter to begin with. They will get you by, but if you're spending the money to upgrade anyway it would probably be better in the long run to stick with the CTS-V. We really do like the CTS-V setup on our RingSpec Camaro.

garcmol · 05-03-2012, 02:47 PM

Not to thread jack....

But, would the difference in weight of the vehicles be a factor? I mean Corvette to Camaro difference. Would, or should I say ~ how soon ~, the brakes from a Corvette on a Camaro fade any quicker? I'm going to say yes, but would like to know.

I, too, have seen the advantages of an even bigger set up from the CTS-V! Felt like the air was being pulled out of my chest!

axis · 05-03-2012, 03:33 PM

I seem to remember someone posting the stopping distance specs from the Camaro and Z06 and they were nearly identical. Not bad till you consider the Z weighs in at 500lbs+ less. More pistons doesn't necessarily equate to better stopping.

JusticePete · 05-04-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

Not to thread jack....

But, would the difference in weight of the vehicles be a factor? I mean Corvette to Camaro difference. Would, or should I say ~ how soon ~, the brakes from a Corvette on a Camaro fade any quicker? I'm going to say yes, but would like to know.

I, too, have seen the advantages of an even bigger set up from the CTS-V! Felt like the air was being pulled out of my chest!

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Originally Posted by axis

I seem to remember someone posting the stopping distance specs from the Camaro and Z06 and they were nearly identical. Not bad till you consider the Z weighs in at 500lbs+ less. More pistons doesn't necessarily equate to better stopping.

Brakes from a car of similar or greater weight

Brakes from a great car that is MUCH lighter to a heavier car

mikey1107 · 05-04-2012, 09:24 AM

both are Brembo 6 piston calipers. What is the difference? Not talking about pads here just calipers.

axis · 05-04-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1107

both are Brembo 6 piston calipers. What is the difference? Not talking about pads here just calipers.

Surface area.

mikey1107 · 05-04-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

Surface area.

surface area of what...the caliper pistons? what are you referring to?

Sleez · 05-04-2012, 11:44 AM

TOTAL CALIPER PISTON
SURFACE AREA
(PER CALIPER)

06-11 ZR1 = 8.52 sq in

06-11 Z06 = 7.95 sq in

09-11 CTSV = 8.52 sq in

plus rotor diameter is different, CTSV = 14.68" and Z06 = 13.976" and ZR1 = 15.5"

axis · 05-04-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey1107

surface area of what...the caliper pistons? what are you referring to?

As Sleez posted, it's the braking surface area that makes the difference. You can't just say they're both 6 piston so they should perform similarly. You can put a physically bigger pad on the V calipers which translates into more braking surface area.

mikey1107 · 05-04-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by axis

As Sleez posted, it's the braking surface area that makes the difference. You can't just say they're both 6 piston so they should perform similarly. You can put a physically bigger pad on the V calipers which translates into more braking surface area.

I hadn't said anything of the sort.
I was just posing a question and curious about what the differences were and trying to find a more affordable option that may have the same functionality.Apparently not,so now that I know that the pistons are different sizes, that answered my question about it.

Thanks everyone for the information and now I can move on to more important things...brake cooling ducts

05-03-2012, 09:02 AM	#1
mikey1107 Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 417	Corvette Calipers?? Has anyone ever looked into if the Corvette ZR-1 or Grand Sport 6 piston calipers will work for a brake upgrade? The J56 Corvette caliper appears to be slightly cheaper than the CTS-V calipers. __________________ 2017 SW SS

05-03-2012, 11:19 AM	#2
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	While there isn't anything wrong with the Z06/GS calipers themselves but they do require close attention if you're tracking the car. Also be sure that you're running a single continuous pad design with those calipers, the factory pads use a padlet design on either side of the rotor and these have tendency to fail on track... infact we've lost padlets on track before, and it's not a pretty situation. Our recommendation since we have experience with both setups? Spend the little extra cash and go to the CTS-V setup. It's really a complete bolt in and proven to work, work well, and wont give you the headaches of the stock C6Z/GS Calipers. Last edited by PfadtRacing; 05-03-2012 at 12:51 PM.

05-03-2012, 01:22 PM	#3
mikey1107 Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 417	point taken. I may look a little bit into it too see if a solid/1-piece pad could fit the caliper. If all else fails I will go with the V setup but I think it is still worth a look. Besides, we may not have know that the V setup would work if someone didn't try it. Thanks for the info __________________ 2017 SW SS

05-03-2012, 02:47 PM	#5
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,198	Not to thread jack.... But, would the difference in weight of the vehicles be a factor? I mean Corvette to Camaro difference. Would, or should I say ~ how soon ~, the brakes from a Corvette on a Camaro fade any quicker? I'm going to say yes, but would like to know. I, too, have seen the advantages of an even bigger set up from the CTS-V! Felt like the air was being pulled out of my chest! __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

05-03-2012, 03:33 PM	#6
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	I seem to remember someone posting the stopping distance specs from the Camaro and Z06 and they were nearly identical. Not bad till you consider the Z weighs in at 500lbs+ less. More pistons doesn't necessarily equate to better stopping. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

05-04-2012, 09:24 AM	#8
mikey1107 Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 417	both are Brembo 6 piston calipers. What is the difference? Not talking about pads here just calipers. __________________ 2017 SW SS

05-04-2012, 11:44 AM	#11
Sleez Drives: 2010, 2LT, RS, 6M, ABM (#1893) SOLD Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Willits, CA Posts: 1,437 View My Garage	TOTAL CALIPER PISTON SURFACE AREA (PER CALIPER) 06-11 ZR1 = 8.52 sq in 06-11 Z06 = 7.95 sq in 09-11 CTSV = 8.52 sq in plus rotor diameter is different, CTSV = 14.68" and Z06 = 13.976" and ZR1 = 15.5"