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SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 07:39 AM

Car is going to Straightline Performance in a couple of weeks. Who thinks they will be closest to actual HP/TQ numbers?

Current specs

-7.0 liter 427 long block built by Texas Speed.
-Forged pistons and Callies Compstar crank
-CNC ported PRC heads with hollow stem 2.165 and 1.6 valves
-Harland Sharpe rockers
-238/248 .605/.615 114 cam
-Ported oil pump and other machining necessary to handle high hp
-Monster Level 4 clutch
-1 7/8" American Racing headers with 3"catless X-pipe
-Borla S-type axle back
-RevExtreme catch can
- Fast/NW 102

Car put down 520/500 on Speed Incs dyno on motor

Whats next
ECS Ysi 10 rib kit approx 10 psi
Alky control dual nozzle kit
Boost a pump and ID1000's

So, what do you think?

thebeast916 · 05-13-2013, 07:45 AM

That bap will not cut it on your fueling, even with meth.
Invest in a proper dual fuel pump setup.

SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast916

That bap will not cut it on your fueling, even with meth.
Invest in a proper dual fuel pump setup.

Ive talked to 3 different shop and they seem to think it will be just fine.

Camper · 05-13-2013, 08:03 AM

Hey bud, unless you have the fast already, id grab the dual pump just to be safe.

SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Camper

Hey bud, unless you have the fast already, id grab the dual pump just to be safe.

Well, the plan was to run this setup through the summer and then do the dual pump this winter when I decide exactly what we want to setup the fuel system for. Seeing as Im limited to 10psi on this motor anyways, we decided that this would be a safe way to go.

SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 09:09 AM

Double Tap

SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 09:10 AM

Triple Tap

WheelmanSS · 05-13-2013, 09:37 AM

I'm in agreement with the others on your fuel. I would not rely solely on the BAP.

You have big money in your FI and motor build, hate to see you lose it on fuel. Personally, I would start my build with fuel and go from there.

SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 10:47 AM

Ive previously voiced my concerns about fuel limitations to the guys doing the install and the site vendor I bought the parts through. Based on their knowledge, this will work for what Im currently looking to accomplish.

Camper · 05-13-2013, 11:08 AM

Limited to 10psi being a standard 427? You going to step down to a 416 or lsx to up boost later?

If matt or doug and nick think youre fine. They wouldnt lead you in the wrong direction!

Unreal · 05-13-2013, 11:30 AM

You will run out of fuel, and 10psi is barely spinning a Ysi. It will be lazy and won't make all that much power. Get that up to 18-20psi.

I say mid 700s on 10psi.

SERVED_USMC · 05-13-2013, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camper

Limited to 10psi being a standard 427? You going to step down to a 416 or lsx to up boost later?

If matt or doug and nick think youre fine. They wouldnt lead you in the wrong direction!

Will be going to a 416 over the winter and push 18-20psi. If there was any question that it wouldnt be enough, im sure it would have been addressed.

We dont plan on making anymore than 750ish at the moment with the 10psi we are limited to on this motor, hence why the BAP will make due for right now. I would have been happy to go ahead and do the fuel system now, but the motor is still only capable of limited boost. So i decided to hold off until we pull the motor.

The wife was a little curious as to where the 10K from our savings account went anyways. LOL Just saving a little bit of coin until winter.

thebeast916 · 05-13-2013, 01:02 PM

I have a bap on my stock pump and I'm out of fuel at 596rwhp at 11.5lbs on stock 6.0.
There is no way a bap will support what you have.

ToddB · 05-13-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast916

I have a bap on my stock pump and I'm out of fuel at 596rwhp at 11.5lbs on stock 6.0.
There is no way a bap will support what you have.

Same here. Stock pump with bap could not keep up on my car with just a whipple headers and CAI. Went to ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM

05-13-2013, 07:39 AM	#1
SERVED_USMC Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: IN Posts: 268	Place your bets!! 427 YSi Car is going to Straightline Performance in a couple of weeks. Who thinks they will be closest to actual HP/TQ numbers? Current specs -7.0 liter 427 long block built by Texas Speed. -Forged pistons and Callies Compstar crank -CNC ported PRC heads with hollow stem 2.165 and 1.6 valves -Harland Sharpe rockers -238/248 .605/.615 114 cam -Ported oil pump and other machining necessary to handle high hp -Monster Level 4 clutch -1 7/8" American Racing headers with 3"catless X-pipe -Borla S-type axle back -RevExtreme catch can - Fast/NW 102 Car put down 520/500 on Speed Incs dyno on motor Whats next ECS Ysi 10 rib kit approx 10 psi Alky control dual nozzle kit Boost a pump and ID1000's So, what do you think?

05-13-2013, 09:37 AM	#8
WheelmanSS Logic is dead Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,804	I'm in agreement with the others on your fuel. I would not rely solely on the BAP. You have big money in your FI and motor build, hate to see you lose it on fuel. Personally, I would start my build with fuel and go from there. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (LS3) 573 RWHP 498 RWTQ - Vortech V3 Supercharger - Kooks Stepped Headers, Magnaflow 16580 - Suspension by Pfadt, Hotchkis. 2007 Trailblazer SS- Sold 2001 Trans Am WS6 431 RWHP 408 RWTQ - Sold 1994 Camaro Z28 - Sold

05-13-2013, 11:30 AM	#11
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	You will run out of fuel, and 10psi is barely spinning a Ysi. It will be lazy and won't make all that much power. Get that up to 18-20psi. I say mid 700s on 10psi. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

05-13-2013, 07:45 AM	#2
thebeast916 Drives: Blown G8 GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 782	That bap will not cut it on your fueling, even with meth. Invest in a proper dual fuel pump setup.

05-13-2013, 08:03 AM	#4
Camper Banned Drives: 10' 2SS LS3 M6 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 1,370	Hey bud, unless you have the fast already, id grab the dual pump just to be safe.

05-13-2013, 09:09 AM	#6
SERVED_USMC Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: IN Posts: 268	Double Tap

05-13-2013, 09:10 AM	#7
SERVED_USMC Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: IN Posts: 268	Triple Tap

05-13-2013, 10:47 AM	#9
SERVED_USMC Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: IN Posts: 268	Ive previously voiced my concerns about fuel limitations to the guys doing the install and the site vendor I bought the parts through. Based on their knowledge, this will work for what Im currently looking to accomplish.

05-13-2013, 11:08 AM	#10
Camper Banned Drives: 10' 2SS LS3 M6 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 1,370	Limited to 10psi being a standard 427? You going to step down to a 416 or lsx to up boost later? If matt or doug and nick think youre fine. They wouldnt lead you in the wrong direction!

05-13-2013, 01:02 PM	#13
thebeast916 Drives: Blown G8 GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 782	I have a bap on my stock pump and I'm out of fuel at 596rwhp at 11.5lbs on stock 6.0. There is no way a bap will support what you have.