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cipriank · 07-13-2013, 12:33 PM

I am considering a stall..and have never been in a car with one.

are there any pros and cons and is it a considerable difference the way the car pulls? thank u

Pro Stock John · 07-13-2013, 04:32 PM

Stock stall is 1600-1700 I'd say. Now imagine you could leave at 3200 instead of 1600. Higher in the power band. Good stuff.

cipriank · 07-15-2013, 02:56 PM

thanks bump

meissen · 07-15-2013, 03:27 PM

I would say the only con to a stall is that bigger stalls usually cause more heat. Now I'm not familiar with the 4L80e, but I know that with 4th gens an aftermarket stall on a 4L60e usually requires that you get a transmission cooler so keep the temps down.

That said - John nailed it on the head. I've seen cars drop decent amount of time off their quarter mile, otherwise bone stock, just by getting a higher torque converter.

Pro Stock John · 07-15-2013, 03:54 PM

ADM trans cooler for the win.

LeanPocket · 07-15-2013, 05:38 PM

need a trans cooler regardless.

pros: it hauls ass, keeps you in your powerband, able to stall higher during launch
cons: more heat, less city gas mileage, somewhat expensive

inferno camaro · 07-15-2013, 06:31 PM

Pro: acceleration

Con: replacing tires

SC2150 · 07-15-2013, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferno camaro

Pro: acceleration

Con: replacing tires

LOL! Right on.

Let me know if you want detailed info.

Camarojt · 07-15-2013, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

ADM trans cooler for the win.

I am Circle D stalled with Adm Trans cooler and it is by far the best set up out there! My temps avg 180 in the hot Dallas temperature. It has never even come close to getting hot. In fall it avgs 165-170

dixonk · 07-16-2013, 01:31 AM

What about for those that don't like to always go Ina straight line? Any negative effects with aggressive mountain driving or road course?

grocerygetter · 07-16-2013, 08:17 AM

You have to remember... The car will still roll out at low rpm if you aren't aggressive on the go pedal. So like normal driving is still fine. Once you give it some gas though it's going to shoot to that stall speed. Tihs is where some people complain. Not a big deal really. Once you get used to the manners, it's like driving an other car, but with a higher stall you are rolling out in your torque band.

07-13-2013, 12:33 PM	#1
cipriank Drives: 2010 camaro 2ss Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: boca raton, fl Posts: 247	stall whats it like? pros and cons I am considering a stall..and have never been in a car with one. are there any pros and cons and is it a considerable difference the way the car pulls? thank u __________________ 2010 2ss L99 Mods: ADM race intake, ADM scoop w/ washer bottle, SLP long tube headers, SLP 25% UDP, SLP Loud Mouth 2 exhaust, Vmax TB, BER intake manifold,3.45 gears, MSD wires, SLP 160 t-stat, SLP Springs, EFI live tune by Redline Motorsports

07-13-2013, 04:32 PM	#2
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,221	Stock stall is 1600-1700 I'd say. Now imagine you could leave at 3200 instead of 1600. Higher in the power band. Good stuff. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

07-15-2013, 02:56 PM	#3
cipriank Drives: 2010 camaro 2ss Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: boca raton, fl Posts: 247	thanks bump __________________ 2010 2ss L99 Mods: ADM race intake, ADM scoop w/ washer bottle, SLP long tube headers, SLP 25% UDP, SLP Loud Mouth 2 exhaust, Vmax TB, BER intake manifold,3.45 gears, MSD wires, SLP 160 t-stat, SLP Springs, EFI live tune by Redline Motorsports

07-15-2013, 03:27 PM	#4
meissen Founder - Michigan FBody Drives: 1994 Camaro LT1, 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Haven, MI Posts: 2,598	I would say the only con to a stall is that bigger stalls usually cause more heat. Now I'm not familiar with the 4L80e, but I know that with 4th gens an aftermarket stall on a 4L60e usually requires that you get a transmission cooler so keep the temps down. That said - John nailed it on the head. I've seen cars drop decent amount of time off their quarter mile, otherwise bone stock, just by getting a higher torque converter. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 - *"Zooma"* 1994 Camaro LT1 A4 - *"Red Alert"* - v6-to-LT1 Swapped Cruiser; Cammed, Stalled, Enjoyed "Gone But Not Forgotten" 2016 Camaro 1LT A8 - "Elmo" 2014 Camaro 1LT M6 - "Cherry Bomb" 2012 Camaro 1LS M6 - "Clifford" Michigan FBody Association http://www.mifbody.com/

07-15-2013, 03:54 PM	#5
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,221	ADM trans cooler for the win. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

07-15-2013, 05:38 PM	#6
LeanPocket Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 634	need a trans cooler regardless. pros: it hauls ass, keeps you in your powerband, able to stall higher during launch cons: more heat, less city gas mileage, somewhat expensive __________________ Build Thread

07-15-2013, 06:31 PM	#7
inferno camaro Drives: 2010 camaro pace car, 2008 cts bl, Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 841	Pro: acceleration Con: replacing tires __________________ Mods, 2r max cam, ls3 conv,kooks lt w/hf cats,kooks street sleeper cat back with magnaflow res x-pipe, roto fab cai, v-max TB, vigilante 3700 stall, 3.70 LPE, 442hp/392tq, Mike Norris Tune 11.71@116.24 1.63 60' m&h DR's

07-16-2013, 01:31 AM	#10
dixonk Drives: 2011 Audi Q7 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 1,084	What about for those that don't like to always go Ina straight line? Any negative effects with aggressive mountain driving or road course?

07-16-2013, 08:17 AM	#11
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	You have to remember... The car will still roll out at low rpm if you aren't aggressive on the go pedal. So like normal driving is still fine. Once you give it some gas though it's going to shoot to that stall speed. Tihs is where some people complain. Not a big deal really. Once you get used to the manners, it's like driving an other car, but with a higher stall you are rolling out in your torque band. __________________ -John S.