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SSNYSTR · 11-01-2013, 07:55 AM

Eventually, I would like to have at least 600 RWHP in my camaro. Right now I have a 2011 2SS A6 with Borla ATAK Catback, BBK Cold Air Intake and a MAF chip. I am eventually going to add either NoWeeds or LongTube headers(which one would be better for power?), a supercharger for around $7-8k(not sure how I feel about twin turbos), a torque converter, 4.10 gears, camshaft and a ported throttle body. I've never did a dyno run, so I have no clue how many horses I have. Any other suggestions or opinions on anything? Because I'm sure that won't even be close to 600 horses.

DaFisch · 11-01-2013, 08:03 AM

Well.. You'll definitly be at least 600 with that setup, just remember to upgrade your fuel system (fuel pump, module, injectors) as you go

hrpiii · 11-01-2013, 08:05 AM

NoWeeds is no power gains. A supercharger with 4.10 gears, hmmmm, may not be the best selection either. Keep researching/reading. The Supercharger and cam should get you pretty close to 600, depending on how well you tune it.

revived · 11-01-2013, 08:06 AM

I would probably look at forging your internals if your going to go above 600, im sure you will want to eventually especially if you add all of those bolt-ons.

not · 11-01-2013, 09:01 AM

Hey, the chevy performance parts website shows a ZL1 rear end setup "suggesting"that if you are pushing the car HP wise, you may need this configuration.

What say those who have gone >600HP?

http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/camaro-parts.html

Apex Motorsports · 11-01-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDame1

Eventually, I would like to have at least 600 HP in my camaro. Right now I have a 2SS with Borla ATAK Catback, BBK Cold Air Intake and a MAF chip. I am eventually going to add either NoWeeds or LongTube headers(which one would be better for power?), a supercharger for around $7-8k(not sure how I feel about twin turbos), a torque converter, 4.10 gears, camshaft and a ported throttle body. I've never did a dyno run, so I have no clue how many horses I have. Any other suggestions or opinions on anything? Because I'm sure that won't even be close to 600 horses.

NoWeeds will do nothing for you. Go with long tubes. At 600hp you will probably want to look at more like 3.70. You will have a really hard time hooking up and gear changes will be on you in a flash with 4.10. You are probably sitting around 340-350 at the wheels right now.

Gunnie1 · 11-01-2013, 10:17 AM

340RWHP-350RWHP? Is this a V-6??

Apex Motorsports · 11-01-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunnie1

340RWHP-350RWHP? Is this a V-6??

No. The L99 cars dyno at about 330-340 stock. The LS3 SS is around 370 at the wheels.

SNSSTR · 11-01-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hrpiii

NoWeeds is no power gains.

Although not a substantial amount, my electric cutouts, placed right after the connection pipes, were good for 5hp/5tq when opened on back to back dyno pulls with no changes to the tune. Rhino79 will vouch as he was the one working the dyno.

ravensjeff · 11-01-2013, 10:42 AM

Right now, I have 650 HP; but my car has been built to handle it (Forged internals, drive train upgrades, suspension, etc). The thing is, I could easily add more boost (Currently at 11 lbs) by messing around with pulley size (3.2" now); which means more HP.

I have 3.70 rear also and love it. Assuming your engine internals are up to snuff, your biggest fight will now be getting all that power to the pavement.

I know it can be done, but there is no way I would put a supercharger on my car without forging the internals. And since I was not doing the actual build, my overall main concern was who was going to be doing the work.

SSNYSTR · 11-01-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hrpiii

NoWeeds is no power gains. A supercharger with 4.10 gears, hmmmm, may not be the best selection either. Keep researching/reading. The Supercharger and cam should get you pretty close to 600, depending on how well you tune it.

No weeds has no power gains at all? My second choice is to get some Borla LT Headers since I already have the Borla ATAK. I actually don't know too much about gear ratios and such. What would be a good one?

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Originally Posted by revived

I would probably look at forging your internals if your going to go above 600, im sure you will want to eventually especially if you add all of those bolt-ons.

What do you mean?

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

NoWeeds will do nothing for you. Go with long tubes. At 600hp you will probably want to look at more like 3.70. You will have a really hard time hooking up and gear changes will be on you in a flash with 4.10. You are probably sitting around 340-350 at the wheels right now.

A 3.70 gear would be the best? Since NoWeeds are just basically open headers, it doesn't add power I'm guessing. I want to maybe even go possibly above 600, I just want at least that. I forgot to mention it, but I have an A6.

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

No. The L99 cars dyno at about 330-340 stock. The LS3 SS is around 370 at the wheels.

I think I have an LS3, not sure. So if I have an LS3, I'd have about 380rwhp or so? That's more of a number I thought I would have rather than 350.

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Originally Posted by ravensjeff

Right now, I have 650 HP; but my car has been built to handle it (Forged internals, drive train upgrades, suspension, etc). The thing is, I could easily add more boost (Currently at 11 lbs) by messing around with pulley size (3.2" now); which means more HP.

I have 3.70 rear also and love it. Assuming your engine internals are up to snuff, your biggest fight will now be getting all that power to the pavement.

I know it can be done, but there is no way I would put a supercharger on my car without forging the internals. And since I was not doing the actual build, my overall main concern was who was going to be doing the work.

Forging the internals before a supercharger? What's that mean? It'd be a while before I got a supercharger anyway, unless I win some money lol.

Apex Motorsports · 11-01-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDame1

A 3.70 gear would be the best? Since NoWeeds are just basically open headers, it doesn't add power I'm guessing. I want to maybe even go possibly above 600, I just want at least that. I forgot to mention it, but I have an A6.

I think I have an LS3, not sure. So if I have an LS3, I'd have about 380rwhp or so? That's more of a number I thought I would have rather than 350.

3.70 would be the lowest I would go with the auto and 600+ hp. The auto trans is geared more aggressively than the manual so you do not need as much gear in the diff to achieve the same result. If you have an auto you have the L99.

JCunningham · 11-01-2013, 12:07 PM

Forged internals means forged crank, rods, and pistons. Means you would be building a new engine. Im no expert on the subject but on the truck forums people are pushing there 6.2l way more than 600hp on stock components

Johnthegreat · 11-01-2013, 01:02 PM

I don't get it is he talking 600 crank or 600 rwhp.

11-01-2013, 07:55 AM	#1
SSNYSTR Drives: Black 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Chackbay, La Posts: 698 View My Garage	600 HP Eventually, I would like to have at least 600 RWHP in my camaro. Right now I have a 2011 2SS A6 with Borla ATAK Catback, BBK Cold Air Intake and a MAF chip. I am eventually going to add either NoWeeds or LongTube headers(which one would be better for power?), a supercharger for around $7-8k(not sure how I feel about twin turbos), a torque converter, 4.10 gears, camshaft and a ported throttle body. I've never did a dyno run, so I have no clue how many horses I have. Any other suggestions or opinions on anything? Because I'm sure that won't even be close to 600 horses. Last edited by SSNYSTR; 11-01-2013 at 02:03 PM. Reason: forgot some information

11-01-2013, 10:42 AM	#10
ravensjeff 100% Chevy & Harley Man Drives: 2010 2SS: Blown LSX 376-B15 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eldersburg,MD Posts: 2,211 View My Garage	Right now, I have 650 HP; but my car has been built to handle it (Forged internals, drive train upgrades, suspension, etc). The thing is, I could easily add more boost (Currently at 11 lbs) by messing around with pulley size (3.2" now); which means more HP. I have 3.70 rear also and love it. Assuming your engine internals are up to snuff, your biggest fight will now be getting all that power to the pavement. I know it can be done, but there is no way I would put a supercharger on my car without forging the internals. And since I was not doing the actual build, my overall main concern was who was going to be doing the work. __________________ LSX 376-B15, TVS2300 SC, Harland Sharp Rockers w/ Trunion Bearings, ATI Balancer/keyed, AR LT Headers/Borla Catback Exhaust, DSS 1400 HP Axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, 3.70, Hotchkis Springs/Sway bars, Forgeline SO3P Aluminum Wheels (20x9.5 F/20x11 R)w/ Hidden Titanium Hardware, Nitto NT05 Tires (27540ZR20 F/31535ZR20 R), Billet LPE brake/gas pedals, Escort 9500ci Radar Detector Laser Jammer, Roto Fab CAI with Ice Silver box, Carbon fiber tube/MAF Housing Assy, LPE Aluminum coil covers, SS9 Sleeper Fiber Glass Hood (ACS), Carbotech 1521 ceramic brake pads, Elite catch can.

11-01-2013, 12:07 PM	#13
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	Forged internals means forged crank, rods, and pistons. Means you would be building a new engine. Im no expert on the subject but on the truck forums people are pushing there 6.2l way more than 600hp on stock components __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

11-01-2013, 08:03 AM	#2
DaFisch Master Amateur Mechanic Drives: Victory Red 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: South Barrington, IL Posts: 1,719	Well.. You'll definitly be at least 600 with that setup, just remember to upgrade your fuel system (fuel pump, module, injectors) as you go

11-01-2013, 08:05 AM	#3
hrpiii AKA "Beefcake" Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 8,567	NoWeeds is no power gains. A supercharger with 4.10 gears, hmmmm, may not be the best selection either. Keep researching/reading. The Supercharger and cam should get you pretty close to 600, depending on how well you tune it.

11-01-2013, 08:06 AM	#4
revived Vrrrm. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: MA Posts: 1,495	I would probably look at forging your internals if your going to go above 600, im sure you will want to eventually especially if you add all of those bolt-ons.

11-01-2013, 09:01 AM	#5
not Account Suspended Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 341	Hey, the chevy performance parts website shows a ZL1 rear end setup "suggesting"that if you are pushing the car HP wise, you may need this configuration. What say those who have gone >600HP? http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/camaro-parts.html

11-01-2013, 10:17 AM	#7
Gunnie1 Drives: Camarro 2ss 1LE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: MIami Posts: 3	340RWHP-350RWHP? Is this a V-6??

11-01-2013, 01:02 PM	#14
Johnthegreat Drives: 2012 2SS/RS black camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New York Posts: 515	I don't get it is he talking 600 crank or 600 rwhp.