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pdiddy · 03-28-2015, 09:47 PM

So I got to put a few miles on my car with the new th400 and stall converter and man it's an animal but the power feels like so much more... However day bye bye to any kind of fuel mileage but this is a week end car so who cares.. I do have a full manual reverse valve body so I still have to shift which is a good compromise coming from a manual car... Very fun to drive 50 miles an hour and punch it in this cool weather and it will still break my drag radials loose

DarkCry956 · 03-28-2015, 11:07 PM

Nice! If I could do it again I'd do a 400. Damn 4L is horrible on fuel anyway.

bcguy · 03-28-2015, 11:49 PM

Congrats on the install

Bo White · 03-29-2015, 12:01 AM

What stall speed?

LS7 427 · 03-29-2015, 09:50 AM

Good to hear you're up and running pdiddy.

I got all the wiring ran up into the console yesterday. Just need to tie into the neutral safety micro switch on the shifter, run some power to the transbrake button, bolt up the dip stick, put the drive shaft back on and fill the 400 with oil. Hopefully I'm going to be able to fire mine later today.

I'm running a 3500 stall Bo.

Bryan

pdiddy · 03-29-2015, 10:57 AM

3500-3600 for me also

Bo White · 03-29-2015, 11:45 AM

That's about what PTC is building for me.

LS7 427 · 04-03-2015, 10:58 PM

Got my car running today. It's quite a bit different than doing the swap from a manual transmission. A lot of trial and error pissing around with the tune file to get rid of all the TCM functions and allow the car to start.

I only ran it for about 20 seconds today, had a bunch of wires/stuff hanging out all over the place. Shut the car off, cleaned up the connections and wiring, tucked everything away and installed the exhaust. Tomorrow I'll put it up on the jack stands and idle it through the gears. If all is OK, perhaps a little afternoon cruise for a test run.

Bryan

pdiddy · 04-04-2015, 10:08 PM

Ya I heard the auto stuff is harder howeve not sure if someone told u or not but supposedly if u load a manual tune and start there it makes it easier I am fighting a grimlin regarding fuel and o2 sensors right now otherwise all is good it takes about two days of driving prob 50 miles for my speedo to start picking up the abs sensors and if I happen to clean the speedo code that I get then it will stop working for two days again lol

LS7 427 · 04-05-2015, 10:01 AM

It was only harder because there doesn't seem to be much info out there on the process for the 6L80 swap, a lot of trial and error. Now that its done, on a look back it's very simple.

Because the ecm and tcm are vin matched you can not load a manual tune into a 6L80(we tried). What you need to do is:

do a "return to stock" before you pull the 6L80
after the th400 is in pin wires 10-14 and 11-13 on the round transmission plug to complete the canbus circuit
cut the purple wire at the starter solenoid and run both ends back to the micro switch on the new shifter for neutral safety
On the 4 wire plug from the OEM shifter that was removed pin the purple/white and black wires so you can remove the key from the ignition
Now do a "upload stock file to your laptop or handheld device. This will upload ecm data but will not have tcm data
Copy and paste your tune data into the tables of the uploaded stock file
Load the tune file back into the car and your done.

The car started immediately with no codes and the speedometer was still working. Went for a drive and did a couple of half throttle pulls through the gears. The TH400 sure does move the power around in a different fashion, what a blast.

A huge thanks to Ted Jannetty, we emailed shit back and forth and talked on the phone all day Friday till we go it done. He was relentless and wouldn't quit till we had it working properly, it wasn't his project but he wasn't going to see me stuck with a car that wouldn't start and run properly. Everything was done remotely with SCT tuning software.

03-28-2015, 09:47 PM	#1
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	Fti th400 and stall review So I got to put a few miles on my car with the new th400 and stall converter and man it's an animal but the power feels like so much more... However day bye bye to any kind of fuel mileage but this is a week end car so who cares.. I do have a full manual reverse valve body so I still have to shift which is a good compromise coming from a manual car... Very fun to drive 50 miles an hour and punch it in this cool weather and it will still break my drag radials loose __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

03-28-2015, 11:49 PM	#3
bcguy bcguy Drives: 2011 ss/rs m6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: british columbia canada Posts: 507	Congrats on the install __________________ Agp 62/66 ,lsx 427. , Callie's ,diamond ,all pro ,American racing ,I'ds130s,102 intake and throttle body,etc .fore triple , Turbo 400 level 5 , b and m pro , dss carbon fiber , dss ford 9 inch with strange pumpkin,3.73 ratio,1400 hp axels,boost and air fuel pillar guages. Weld rts 17x10 and 17x4.5 with m and h drag radials and skinnys

03-29-2015, 12:01 AM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,090	What stall speed? __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-29-2015, 09:50 AM	#5
LS7 427 10.11 @ 136.32 Drives: Black & Yellow 2SS/RS LPE LS7 427 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Redcliff, Alberta Posts: 957 View My Garage	Good to hear you're up and running pdiddy. I got all the wiring ran up into the console yesterday. Just need to tie into the neutral safety micro switch on the shifter, run some power to the transbrake button, bolt up the dip stick, put the drive shaft back on and fill the 400 with oil. Hopefully I'm going to be able to fire mine later today. I'm running a 3500 stall Bo. Bryan __________________ My Build Journal Built, Tuned and Maintained By........

03-29-2015, 10:57 AM	#6
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	3500-3600 for me also __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

03-28-2015, 11:07 PM	#2
DarkCry956 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas RGV Posts: 794	Nice! If I could do it again I'd do a 400. Damn 4L is horrible on fuel anyway.

03-29-2015, 11:45 AM	#7
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,090	That's about what PTC is building for me. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

04-03-2015, 10:58 PM	#8
LS7 427 10.11 @ 136.32 Drives: Black & Yellow 2SS/RS LPE LS7 427 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Redcliff, Alberta Posts: 957 View My Garage	Got my car running today. It's quite a bit different than doing the swap from a manual transmission. A lot of trial and error pissing around with the tune file to get rid of all the TCM functions and allow the car to start. I only ran it for about 20 seconds today, had a bunch of wires/stuff hanging out all over the place. Shut the car off, cleaned up the connections and wiring, tucked everything away and installed the exhaust. Tomorrow I'll put it up on the jack stands and idle it through the gears. If all is OK, perhaps a little afternoon cruise for a test run. Bryan __________________ My Build Journal Built, Tuned and Maintained By........

04-04-2015, 10:08 PM	#9
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	Ya I heard the auto stuff is harder howeve not sure if someone told u or not but supposedly if u load a manual tune and start there it makes it easier I am fighting a grimlin regarding fuel and o2 sensors right now otherwise all is good it takes about two days of driving prob 50 miles for my speedo to start picking up the abs sensors and if I happen to clean the speedo code that I get then it will stop working for two days again lol __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

04-05-2015, 10:01 AM	#10
LS7 427 10.11 @ 136.32 Drives: Black & Yellow 2SS/RS LPE LS7 427 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Redcliff, Alberta Posts: 957 View My Garage	It was only harder because there doesn't seem to be much info out there on the process for the 6L80 swap, a lot of trial and error. Now that its done, on a look back it's very simple. Because the ecm and tcm are vin matched you can not load a manual tune into a 6L80(we tried). What you need to do is: do a "return to stock" before you pull the 6L80 after the th400 is in pin wires 10-14 and 11-13 on the round transmission plug to complete the canbus circuit cut the purple wire at the starter solenoid and run both ends back to the micro switch on the new shifter for neutral safety On the 4 wire plug from the OEM shifter that was removed pin the purple/white and black wires so you can remove the key from the ignition Now do a "upload stock file to your laptop or handheld device. This will upload ecm data but will not have tcm data Copy and paste your tune data into the tables of the uploaded stock file Load the tune file back into the car and your done. The car started immediately with no codes and the speedometer was still working. Went for a drive and did a couple of half throttle pulls through the gears. The TH400 sure does move the power around in a different fashion, what a blast. A huge thanks to Ted Jannetty, we emailed shit back and forth and talked on the phone all day Friday till we go it done. He was relentless and wouldn't quit till we had it working properly, it wasn't his project but he wasn't going to see me stuck with a car that wouldn't start and run properly. Everything was done remotely with SCT tuning software. __________________ My Build Journal Built, Tuned and Maintained By........