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1LeSS · 08-21-2015, 06:33 PM

So got my Vortech V3 installed and drove home the 600km. When I got home I noticed a small hole in the hood liner and some small belt pieces.
I checked out the new vortech belt thinking that was what was coming apart. While I did see some small fraying, there was nothing bad.

We loaded up the car and headed for the big Camaro cruise. 2000km later a CIL comes on and I've blow the main engine drive belt, not the big vortech belt. Now the hole in the hood liner is obvious where it came from.

Has anyone had experience with a problem like this? I would suspect an alignment issue but upon replacing the belt we looked hard and all appears straight on.

So if anyone has a good idea, let me know.

Side note: I have contacted the installer and am waiting for his response.

1LeSS · 08-22-2015, 01:09 AM

So anyone with a centrifugal supercharger can chime in. Belt breakage, is the belt too tight for what's happening as the super charger builds its power?? I'm thinking that its stretching the belt and causing it to come apart.
No ones had experiences with belts breaking on these chargers?.

blake-b · 08-22-2015, 01:18 AM

I had a cog belt when I had a Ysi and I shredded a belt when (somehow) a rock got between the crank pulley and the belt... I never used a serpentine drive belt for it.

Under hard acceleration, they may be some flexing going on pulling things out of alignment.

Unreal · 08-22-2015, 08:47 AM

Alignment, tension, proper installation. Start there. Took me 5-6 belts, and a good 6 months worth of tweaking and swapping parts to get my setup to stop tossing belts.

1LeSS · 08-23-2015, 12:45 AM

Watched a show last night on Speedweek. The guy was talking about the amount of tension that belt goes under when the charger goes full booster and then lets off. Am I going to have to just keep new belts on it?
The alignment looks fine but I suppose fine can be measured in millimeters. The only part I really am not sure of is part of the Vortech kit, its the replacement pulley wheel.
There are no edges on it and the belt actually sits higher than the edge it has.
I am totally grabbing for straws here.

Unreal · 08-23-2015, 09:07 AM

Once the belt is setup and aligned properly, should last 40k+ miles. No issue with pulleys like that. You can't eyeball alignment. Get a laser system on it and measure.

JustaCamaro · 08-23-2015, 06:39 PM

If I understand properly, you are breaking the stock drive belt? Not the supercharger belt?
I have the bracket setup that came with Vortech's V3 kit.
I now have the V7 with cog drive. I have never had any issues with the stock drive belt or A/C belt.
I don't have a ton of miles on my car, but I run it in standing mile events where it sees full throttle and 7000 rpm redlines for 30 secs at a time.

1LeSS · 08-24-2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JustaCamaro

If I understand properly, you are breaking the stock drive belt? Not the supercharger belt?
I have the bracket setup that came with Vortech's V3 kit.
I now have the V7 with cog drive. I have never had any issues with the stock drive belt or A/C belt.
I don't have a ton of miles on my car, but I run it in standing mile events where it sees full throttle and 7000 rpm redlines for 30 secs at a time.

Yup, its the stock belt that has gone. must have started shredding right away cause the first time I saw the hole in the hood was when I got home and opened the hood up.
Do you or anyone else run an upgraded serpentine belt?

I want to hit full throttle and 7000rpms but a little set back right now cause I don't need to be left on the side of the road again.

JustaCamaro · 08-25-2015, 06:35 PM

I am just running the stock GM belt.

08-21-2015, 06:33 PM	#1
1LeSS Drives: 2013 2SS/RS VR 1LE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Prince George, B.C. Posts: 486	Drive belt and vortech So got my Vortech V3 installed and drove home the 600km. When I got home I noticed a small hole in the hood liner and some small belt pieces. I checked out the new vortech belt thinking that was what was coming apart. While I did see some small fraying, there was nothing bad. We loaded up the car and headed for the big Camaro cruise. 2000km later a CIL comes on and I've blow the main engine drive belt, not the big vortech belt. Now the hole in the hood liner is obvious where it came from. Has anyone had experience with a problem like this? I would suspect an alignment issue but upon replacing the belt we looked hard and all appears straight on. So if anyone has a good idea, let me know. Side note: I have contacted the installer and am waiting for his response. __________________ BC Racing coil-overs, 32ml rear sway bar, Solid cradle bushing kit, Steel jacket radius rod bushes, JPSS caster bolt, Bo White TB, Granitelli HP coils, Apex Catchcan, Vortech V7 Ysi Supercharger, LSX B-15 engine, custom spec cam, and other stuff.

08-22-2015, 01:09 AM	#2
1LeSS Drives: 2013 2SS/RS VR 1LE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Prince George, B.C. Posts: 486	So anyone with a centrifugal supercharger can chime in. Belt breakage, is the belt too tight for what's happening as the super charger builds its power?? I'm thinking that its stretching the belt and causing it to come apart. No ones had experiences with belts breaking on these chargers?. __________________ BC Racing coil-overs, 32ml rear sway bar, Solid cradle bushing kit, Steel jacket radius rod bushes, JPSS caster bolt, Bo White TB, Granitelli HP coils, Apex Catchcan, Vortech V7 Ysi Supercharger, LSX B-15 engine, custom spec cam, and other stuff.

08-22-2015, 08:47 AM	#4
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Alignment, tension, proper installation. Start there. Took me 5-6 belts, and a good 6 months worth of tweaking and swapping parts to get my setup to stop tossing belts. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

08-23-2015, 12:45 AM	#5
1LeSS Drives: 2013 2SS/RS VR 1LE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Prince George, B.C. Posts: 486	Watched a show last night on Speedweek. The guy was talking about the amount of tension that belt goes under when the charger goes full booster and then lets off. Am I going to have to just keep new belts on it? The alignment looks fine but I suppose fine can be measured in millimeters. The only part I really am not sure of is part of the Vortech kit, its the replacement pulley wheel. There are no edges on it and the belt actually sits higher than the edge it has. I am totally grabbing for straws here. __________________ BC Racing coil-overs, 32ml rear sway bar, Solid cradle bushing kit, Steel jacket radius rod bushes, JPSS caster bolt, Bo White TB, Granitelli HP coils, Apex Catchcan, Vortech V7 Ysi Supercharger, LSX B-15 engine, custom spec cam, and other stuff.

08-23-2015, 09:07 AM	#6
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Once the belt is setup and aligned properly, should last 40k+ miles. No issue with pulleys like that. You can't eyeball alignment. Get a laser system on it and measure. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

08-22-2015, 01:18 AM	#3
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	I had a cog belt when I had a Ysi and I shredded a belt when (somehow) a rock got between the crank pulley and the belt... I never used a serpentine drive belt for it. Under hard acceleration, they may be some flexing going on pulling things out of alignment.

08-23-2015, 06:39 PM	#7
JustaCamaro Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 247	If I understand properly, you are breaking the stock drive belt? Not the supercharger belt? I have the bracket setup that came with Vortech's V3 kit. I now have the V7 with cog drive. I have never had any issues with the stock drive belt or A/C belt. I don't have a ton of miles on my car, but I run it in standing mile events where it sees full throttle and 7000 rpm redlines for 30 secs at a time. __________________ LSX 429, Vortech V7 YSI, Squash Fuel system, Jannetty Tuned.

08-25-2015, 06:35 PM	#9
JustaCamaro Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 247	I am just running the stock GM belt. __________________ LSX 429, Vortech V7 YSI, Squash Fuel system, Jannetty Tuned.