Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
dave@hennessey
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-31-2013, 02:53 PM   #1
TBailey
 
TBailey's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS / RS / 1LE
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 48
What oil are you running??

Just wanting to know what motor oil everyone is running?? Especially the guys with a little more horsepower. Thanks for the advice.
__________________
ITS A WORK IN PROGRESS
SIMPLE QUICK RACING
TUNED BY DANIEL TIMMONS @ SQR
TBailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 02:59 PM   #2
strych9
I'll be back...
 
strych9's Avatar
 
Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,036
Mobil1. No reason to run anything else.
__________________
Bye bye, Bumblebee!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
strych9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 03:07 PM   #3
SSMickey

 
SSMickey's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Columbia S.C.
Posts: 1,455
For warranty purposes, use a synthetic 5W30 that is API and DEXOS approved. It will say it on the bottle. A lot of the cars with internal mods are running oils with enhanced levels of ZDDP. As for brand, you'll get a hundred different answers to that. Royal Purple HPS, Redline, Amsoil, Joe Gibbs Driven and Brad Penn are all popular and quality oils for the modified crowd, but are usually not available at your local parts store.
__________________
ProCharger P1X, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, ARH Headers and Exhaust with Borla ATAK mufflers, MGW Shifter, MTI Drop Springs, Forgeline RB3C Wheels, 3.91 gears, Night Owl LED Control System
SSMickey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 03:18 PM   #4
BullF-16
USAF retired! Thank God!
 
BullF-16's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North Texas
Posts: 2,799
Amsoil Dominator 15W50 race oil, and there are a bunch of reasons to run other than Mobil1. On a pure stock OE motor Mobil 1 is fine. Modded motors....not so much.
__________________
HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads
BullF-16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 03:53 PM   #5
strych9
I'll be back...
 
strych9's Avatar
 
Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by BullF-16 View Post
Amsoil Dominator 15W50 race oil, and there are a bunch of reasons to run other than Mobil1. On a pure stock OE motor Mobil 1 is fine. Modded motors....not so much.
Explain. Mobil1 has 105,875 psi film strength rating, and 90,000 psi is considered outstanding protection. Lucas Racing oil and Pennzoil Ultra are higher, but Mobil1 is in the top three.

Zinc isn't a huge factor, given that these engines have super-tight tolerances. If these engines used flat-tappet cams, we would be having a different discussion. The key factor with roller cams is the film strength rating. Zinc is a wear inhibitor, but if GM warrants these engines for 100k miles, then I'm okay with the zinc content found in Mobil1 (801ppm). Plus, oil analysis has not shown any greater metal content (caused by wear) by using Mobil1 vs racing oil.

Many racing parts suppliers recommend Mobil1 for vehicles that are primarily used on the street, and only as an occasional racer. Different scenario if the car races more than it sees the street.

So, I stand by what I said. I'd like your opinion on why you feel that Mobil1 isn't good with internal mods.

BTW...this is a never-ending argument, so really I'm just looking for your opinion.

__________________
Bye bye, Bumblebee!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
strych9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 04:07 PM   #6
TBailey
 
TBailey's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2SS / RS / 1LE
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 48
Thanks guys I will keep looking into it... As far as the warranty goes that was gone a long time ago.... And I've only had the car a few months!
__________________
ITS A WORK IN PROGRESS
SIMPLE QUICK RACING
TUNED BY DANIEL TIMMONS @ SQR
TBailey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 05:44 PM   #7
mailclerk
 
Drives: 2013 Camaro 2LT/RS
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 137
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBailey View Post
Just wanting to know what motor oil everyone is running?? Especially the guys with a little more horsepower. Thanks for the advice.
TBailey,

In my 08' Impala SS I run only Mobil 1 5w-30. Just got my Camaro so I can't change anything out until it's first OCI.

MailClerk
mailclerk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 05:55 PM   #8
SSMickey

 
SSMickey's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Columbia S.C.
Posts: 1,455
Bull never said that Mobile 1 was not good with internal mods and neither did I. I won't speak for him, but I feel there are better oils than Mobile 1 available, especially for internally modded engines.

Yes, film strength is very important, probably the most important factor when choosing an oil, but it's not the only factor. Bigger cams come with increased valve train pressures and I prefer to give my valve train every advantage I can by running an oil with enhanced levels of Zinc. Is Zinc as important in a roller cam engine as it is in a flat tappet cam engine. No it isn't, but it's still an important factor to consider.

If I can get an oil with the same or better film strength than Mobile 1 with higher levels of Zinc, why wouldn't I use it? Just my opinion.

As you know, GM warranty's these engines as long as the stock parts are used, not aftermarket cams and valve trains. So I feel there recommendation is null and void with internal mods.
__________________
ProCharger P1X, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, ARH Headers and Exhaust with Borla ATAK mufflers, MGW Shifter, MTI Drop Springs, Forgeline RB3C Wheels, 3.91 gears, Night Owl LED Control System
SSMickey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 06:01 PM   #9
dixonk
 
dixonk's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Audi Q7
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 1,084
Send a message via Skype™ to dixonk
I use Amsoil full synthetic. Have been using Amsoil products for some time now. Good stuff.
dixonk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2013, 06:52 PM   #10
Scott@Bjorn3D


 
Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Eufaula, Alabama
Posts: 6,427
Send a message via MSN to Scott@Bjorn3D
Pennzoil Platinum and it is covered under the GM Dexos ratings for oil so will not screw up your warranty.
Scott@Bjorn3D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 11:31 AM   #11
BullF-16
USAF retired! Thank God!
 
BullF-16's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North Texas
Posts: 2,799
Quote:
Originally Posted by strych9 View Post
Explain. Mobil1 has 105,875 psi film strength rating, and 90,000 psi is considered outstanding protection. Lucas Racing oil and Pennzoil Ultra are higher, but Mobil1 is in the top three.

Zinc isn't a huge factor, given that these engines have super-tight tolerances. If these engines used flat-tappet cams, we would be having a different discussion. The key factor with roller cams is the film strength rating. Zinc is a wear inhibitor, but if GM warrants these engines for 100k miles, then I'm okay with the zinc content found in Mobil1 (801ppm). Plus, oil analysis has not shown any greater metal content (caused by wear) by using Mobil1 vs racing oil.

Many racing parts suppliers recommend Mobil1 for vehicles that are primarily used on the street, and only as an occasional racer. Different scenario if the car races more than it sees the street.

So, I stand by what I said. I'd like your opinion on why you feel that Mobil1 isn't good with internal mods.

BTW...this is a never-ending argument, so really I'm just looking for your opinion.

Ths thread has an abundance of good info. Additionally, my builder, Erik Koenig of HKE racing engines) advised to steer clear of Mobil one and from the research i have done, i have concluded the same thing. In my wifes Camaros, I have switched from the mobil 1 to Pennzoil Ultra 5w30.

The guys at LG motorsports know a little about LS motors also.



http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257146
__________________
HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

Last edited by BullF-16; 08-01-2013 at 11:47 AM.
BullF-16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 12:31 PM   #12
TXM62SS
 
TXM62SS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pearland, TX
Posts: 393
Running Joe Gibbs LS oil since doing my cam swap.
__________________
Victory Red 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Camaro
Pat G. Spec Cam from Cam Motion 228/236 .599/.599 112+2LSA
Kooks 1-7/8" LTs w/ Cats
Roto-Fab, Bo White TB, Borla Touring Catback
3.91 1LE Gears, MGW
Tuned by Pat G

TXM62SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 12:45 PM   #13
victoryred1ss
 
victoryred1ss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS M6 2016 2SS A8
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 553
I have two high horsepower Camaros. Mobil 1 syn from day 1 in both and no problems.
__________________
TVS 2300 721RWHP 686RWTQ
Built by Me
Suspension done by JDP
Tune done by JRE
victoryred1ss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 03:17 PM   #14
james347
 
Drives: 2006 Crownline
Join Date: May 2012
Location: .
Posts: 700
Pennzoil Ultra 5w-30 seems to work really well for my motor.
james347 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.