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Old 09-24-2015, 12:42 PM   #1
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Best weight savings, what you've learned

What do you guys think the best weight reduction mod is for our vehicles? Speaking of course about things like passenger and rear seat removal and such, what have other members seen the best gains from? Or losses from in this matter... Haha

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Old 09-24-2015, 01:16 PM   #2
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Lighter wheels.
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Old 09-24-2015, 02:37 PM   #3
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Agree, our wheels are incredibly heavy when took into count for rotating mass. What about like removals that anyone has done?
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Old 09-24-2015, 02:46 PM   #4
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:10 PM   #5
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A few days ago, Motorhead posted this:
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423990

Thanks, Motorhead... very informative!

Using the info in the linked article, if one takes the rough curb weight of a 5th gen (edit: Oops, forgot to put, ""3750 lbs. or so"), and assumes 420 hp for an SS, 320 hp for a six- banger, we get weight to power ratios of:

8.93 lbs. per hp for the SS
11.72 lbs. per hp for the six
(It's just weight divided by hp)


One can then use the same formula to see the equivalency of added hp vs. weight loss:

Adding 10 hp to an SS is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 85 lbs. of weight
Adding 10 hp to a six- cylinder is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 120 lbs. of weight

... and vice versa!

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Old 09-24-2015, 03:24 PM   #6
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Ive been thinking about rear seat delete due to the back seat being so small that no one but my dog will fit back there anyway. Also, if you have the spare tire set up like mine, you can always remove that. Aside from that, Id do carbon fiber mods like deck lid and hood, lighter/stronger calipers, drilled and slotted rotors, aluminum wheels (over steel) and things such as that.
A bit of imagination can go a long way.
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:29 PM   #7
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I have a carbon fiber hood and it weighs about the same as stock (both are very light). In no particular order: wheels, exhaust system, headers, lightweight seats, take everything out of your trunk, brakes and rotors. After that, it comes down to cutting and deleting. DietCoke had a nice thread on here concerning his "weight loss program". I think he ended up around 3500lbs.
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:41 PM   #8
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A few days ago, Motorhead posted this:
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423990

Thanks, Motorhead... very informative!

Using the info in the linked article, if one takes the rough curb weight of a 5th gen, and assumes 420 hp for an SS, 320 hp for a six- banger, we get weight to power ratios of:

8.93 lbs. per hp for the SS
11.72 lbs. per hp for the six
It's just weight divided by hp)


One can then use the same formula to see the equivalency of added hp vs. weight loss:

Adding 10 hp to an SS is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 85 lbs. of weight
Adding 10 hp to a six- cylinder is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 120 lbs. of weight

... and vice versa!
Wow, that information is completely perfect

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Old 09-24-2015, 03:42 PM   #9
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I have a carbon fiber hood and it weighs about the same as stock (both are very light). In no particular order: wheels, exhaust system, headers, lightweight seats, take everything out of your trunk, brakes and rotors. After that, it comes down to cutting and deleting. DietCoke had a nice thread on here concerning his "weight loss program". I think he ended up around 3500lbs.
Ill take a look into the thread, seems like there will be some good info

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Old 09-24-2015, 03:45 PM   #10
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A few days ago, Motorhead posted this:
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423990

Thanks, Motorhead... very informative!

Using the info in the linked article, if one takes the rough curb weight of a 5th gen, and assumes 420 hp for an SS, 320 hp for a six- banger, we get weight to power ratios of:

8.93 lbs. per hp for the SS
11.72 lbs. per hp for the six
It's just weight divided by hp)


One can then use the same formula to see the equivalency of added hp vs. weight loss:

Adding 10 hp to an SS is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 85 lbs. of weight
Adding 10 hp to a six- cylinder is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 120 lbs. of weight

... and vice versa!

But the v6 weighs less than the v8 so your v6 values are slightly off if you are assuming both have the same curb weight.
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:47 PM   #11
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But the v6 weighs less than the v8 so your v6 values are slightly off if you are assuming both have the same curb weight.
I went with a roughly estimated weight... options will make a difference, as will fluid levels, model year, etc... however, base curb weights for both cars are remarkably similar. Many sources even cite them at exactly the same weight.
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:54 PM   #12
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A few days ago, Motorhead posted this:
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423990

Thanks, Motorhead... very informative!

Using the info in the linked article, if one takes the rough curb weight of a 5th gen, and assumes 420 hp for an SS, 320 hp for a six- banger, we get weight to power ratios of:

8.93 lbs. per hp for the SS
11.72 lbs. per hp for the six
It's just weight divided by hp)


One can then use the same formula to see the equivalency of added hp vs. weight loss:

Adding 10 hp to an SS is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 85 lbs. of weight
Adding 10 hp to a six- cylinder is sorta roughly equivalent to removing 120 lbs. of weight

... and vice versa!
Also keep in mind that this is concerning sprung weight. Reducing rotating and/or unsprung weight (wheels, rotors, driveshaft, etc) has a greater impact.

Going with long tube headers and aftermarket cat back is an easy way to improve sound, add 30+rwhp, and drop 60-70lbs. Racing Brake 2 piece rotors will improve brake performance and drop 25lbs.

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Old 09-24-2015, 04:14 PM   #13
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Wheels of course, but don't forget the rotors. You can get much lighter, and better rotors. That'll save you rotating mass weight, which is huge.
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:44 PM   #14
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Wheels, clutch/flywheel, driveshaft. You would have to remove 10 times the amount of dry weight to get the same gain from removing a given amount of rotating weight. Lighter brake rotors are good too. Rotating mass comes first, then move on to tearing apart your interior and pulling dry weight from the car.
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