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03-29-2017, 06:39 PM
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Drives: '10 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Marlyand/DC
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Camming without heads?
Just got my headers and tune this week. Im potentially looking at getting the car cammed next but have heard from alot of people its best to do cam and heads together. Thoughts?
What cams would you guys recommend that would be safe without getting new heads? I dd the car and dont push it too hard, will be taking it to the track here and there this summer. Not looking for anything crazy.
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03-29-2017, 06:43 PM
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          Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011
Location: Oversneeze
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You don't need heads with a cam. There's also tons of cams that would work for a DD, any cam vendor can hook you up when you tell them what you want which is a safe DD cam. Don't go crazy on lift or lobe ramp rates and your valvetrain will live a long happy life.
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03-29-2017, 06:47 PM
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Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Utah
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I didn't do heads with my cam. I'm happy with it. Sure I could have picked up some more power, but I didn't have the extra dough to do it.
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03-29-2017, 06:54 PM
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Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
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My first cam swap was stock heads. It will do fine.
The percentage of 5th gens out there that are cammed is small, percentage of those with heads is even smaller than that. Keep intake duration in the 22X* range on a daily, it will do better down low and off idle. |
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03-29-2017, 07:58 PM
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Drives: 2022 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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03-29-2017, 08:32 PM
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Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012
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Me too lol
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03-29-2017, 08:38 PM
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Me too. Be in that smaller group
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03-29-2017, 08:51 PM
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Nothing wrong with doing cam only. I'm in the middle of doing cam and converter now. Heads maybe next year if then.
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03-29-2017, 09:10 PM
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Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2010
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You dont need better heads. Want is another thing.
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03-29-2017, 09:52 PM
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Drives: Camaro and Sierra Join Date: Jul 2012
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Did heads few years after cam
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03-29-2017, 10:24 PM
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Drives: 2012 SS/RS MN6 Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Covington Ga
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Im just weird, I'm doing it all at once. Granted my Corvette was cam only for 4 years.
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03-29-2017, 11:02 PM
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Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010
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03-30-2017, 01:39 AM
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Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012
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Cam only here. I went crazy with lift 231 236 640' 629'. Im really happy with it but Im a bit nervous too it will explode before I swap lifters when swapping heads next year. But whats more crazy is that it could live like that fine and I could swap in better lifters that would fail. Anything can happen. You just have to bet on what you can support or live with after. If my motor blow up, I will build the engine of my dream; solid roller LL LS7 650HP++ NA.
Do it. You dont need heads with a cam. BTW if you go too small you might wish you went bigger and the opposite is true too...
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03-30-2017, 08:25 AM
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Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013
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IMHO, with larger cams like WHAMMO's, heads is a must, or you start begin to bog things down.
With teeny small cam, flow rate of stock heads suffices. |
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