New short block build - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

aabiuso · 06-27-2017, 12:47 PM

Hey guys I recently blew up my ls3 over the weekend...#1piston went through the side of the block!!

My car is a 2012 2ss with Texas speed head cam package prc heads and stage 3 cam, ported intake and throttle body,kooks headers, stainless works chambered exhaust and a tune. Well now with the block being no good i was looking into getting a short block and looking for recommendations. Money is slightly tight and this will be a long process but starting my research. I was looking at the Texas speed 418 and 427 stroker short blocks but was wondering if anyone has experience with them or any others. Any info would be greatly appreciated

blake-b · 06-27-2017, 02:22 PM

I just had an engine built. My advice would be to get quotes from several builders and see which fits your budget. There are many, many engine builders out there. You'll likely find all of them are very close to each other.

aabiuso · 06-27-2017, 03:18 PM

Yea that's what I was figuring

aabiuso · 06-27-2017, 03:19 PM

Does anyone have info or experience with Texas speed short blocks though

sinisterlsx510 · 06-27-2017, 07:35 PM

Had a tsp 408 in my silverado which lasted me like 7 yrs until a lifter went out like 1yr ago... top notch customer service.. build time was pretty quick..

aabiuso · 06-27-2017, 08:48 PM

thanks for the response, i am very pleased with their head/cam package that is on the car...still trying to figure out why the piston failed drastically...another thin, does anyone know if they sell single heads cause I'm pretty sure the one side is trashed considering a bunch of chunks of the piston along with what looks like a quart of oil were sitting in the intake manifold lol

Avenging Orange · 06-27-2017, 09:53 PM

Apparently you've had experience with Texas Speed. Best bet would be to talk to them.

christianchevell · 06-28-2017, 06:50 PM

My block I got from Sag performance group shopping on the net also known as Custom engine supply, they along with Thompson motorsports are the largest sellers of built blocks on Ebay back when I was looking compared to some prices. My block bare was about 1300$ and then rotating assembly like $2500 forged but could have been cheaper but not better.... Was about 5 grand with shipping all in for a short block stroker 428 forged internals, bearings, clearanced and balanced /blue printed etc...

Jerry at custom engine supply was great to work with and recommended installing the right parts to make it easy for assembly. I had a MAST windage tray for a stroker I had to modify further for the clearance and it may be a problem many run into. Good Luck. I do believe Texas speed is smart and they include the Br30 break in oil with the block and I used it more than once. I dump oil after dyno tuning / break in of the engine with varying revs over time as a new engine should be but also for the cams sake.. then ride another 500 with br30 again then switch over to some cheaper vr30 for a couple thousand just to make sure all is seated well, then go full synth ls30. With our heads being symmetrical it does not matter one side is the same as the other so one head should be able to be purchased, I use GMPP heads from summit they are only slightly more than stock for CNC ported.

aabiuso · 06-28-2017, 07:32 PM

ive never dealt with them personally, I bought the car with the work done to it already(my mistake for dealing with someones work I don't know)

hey Christian, are you happy with the stroker what kind of numbers are you making with it and any problems with the big stroke or any other issues

Quake954rr · 06-29-2017, 02:47 AM

Pm me Sir got several shortt blocks and long blocks available . Also several blocks machined and ready to assembly. All work has been done by top tier LS race engine builder in the country . Thanm you look forward to helping you as much as I can .

Olddudesrule · 06-29-2017, 10:49 AM

Careful......

christianchevell · 07-02-2017, 09:51 AM

Well I love it, I am a with a much milder cam and a feel of gobs of more torque but I never wanted to go FI, or even think of it in the future form my compression ratio being 11 to 1. Its reliable as anything, a 416-18 is where most go and its usually made more FI friendly for those that want it. Its like say a stock motor versus a built motor feel for take off in the torque feel difference and way more low end and all across the board torque even with a milder cam.....

Yay240 · 07-02-2017, 10:19 PM

Hey bro I just had a new engine rebuilt to replace my engine that had the same thing happen to you! I just had my #2 piston blow into a million pieces and go out the side of the block.

I had a shop in Sacramento that specializes in LS build my motor. The cost break down was below:

Long Block- 750
File Rings- 150
Headwork- 300 (damaged due to the piston exploding)
Machine Shop Work- 300
Cost of used bare block- 1000

I brought him all the parts that I had purchased from TSP.

sinisterlsx510 · 07-02-2017, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yay240

Hey bro I just had a new engine rebuilt to replace my engine that had the same thing happen to you! I just had my #2 piston blow into a million pieces and go out the side of the block.

I had a shop in Sacramento that specializes in LS build my motor. The cost break down was below:

Long Block- 750
File Rings- 150
Headwork- 300 (damaged due to the piston exploding)
Machine Shop Work- 300
Cost of used bare block- 1000

I brought him all the parts that I had purchased from TSP.

What shop in sac?

06-27-2017, 07:35 PM	#5
sinisterlsx510 Drives: 14 ss camaro summit white Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: bay area Posts: 463	Had a tsp 408 in my silverado which lasted me like 7 yrs until a lifter went out like 1yr ago... top notch customer service.. build time was pretty quick.. __________________ 2014 ss camaro Stainless works long tubes , rotofab cai , vararam wedge , muffler delete,cat delete ,resonator delete , x pipe 2019 sierra duramax 2500 all terrain x 2001 trans am Lsx 408 ci rebuild in progress(dead project) 1967 camaro Sbc 327.

06-27-2017, 09:53 PM	#7
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Apparently you've had experience with Texas Speed. Best bet would be to talk to them. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

06-28-2017, 06:50 PM	#8
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2021 zl1 a-10 WildCherry Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,622 View My Garage	My block I got from Sag performance group shopping on the net also known as Custom engine supply, they along with Thompson motorsports are the largest sellers of built blocks on Ebay back when I was looking compared to some prices. My block bare was about 1300$ and then rotating assembly like $2500 forged but could have been cheaper but not better.... Was about 5 grand with shipping all in for a short block stroker 428 forged internals, bearings, clearanced and balanced /blue printed etc... Jerry at custom engine supply was great to work with and recommended installing the right parts to make it easy for assembly. I had a MAST windage tray for a stroker I had to modify further for the clearance and it may be a problem many run into. Good Luck. I do believe Texas speed is smart and they include the Br30 break in oil with the block and I used it more than once. I dump oil after dyno tuning / break in of the engine with varying revs over time as a new engine should be but also for the cams sake.. then ride another 500 with br30 again then switch over to some cheaper vr30 for a couple thousand just to make sure all is seated well, then go full synth ls30. With our heads being symmetrical it does not matter one side is the same as the other so one head should be able to be purchased, I use GMPP heads from summit they are only slightly more than stock for CNC ported. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data,Red Carbon Interior, Nav, RotoFab Big Gulp , Elite x2ultra, Borla ATAK, Driveshaft shop, BMR susp, Speed covers, intercoolers, ATI , 2650 MAG, DSX lid, 103 NW, TSP Longtubes & cats, LPE, 1le mods, ,LME cover, Katech pump and chain, Trunnions, BTR stage 2, LPE boostapump, Gforce, Speed eng , Granetteli, etc etc

06-29-2017, 10:49 AM	#11
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	Careful...... __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

07-02-2017, 09:51 AM	#12
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2021 zl1 a-10 WildCherry Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,622 View My Garage	Well I love it, I am a with a much milder cam and a feel of gobs of more torque but I never wanted to go FI, or even think of it in the future form my compression ratio being 11 to 1. Its reliable as anything, a 416-18 is where most go and its usually made more FI friendly for those that want it. Its like say a stock motor versus a built motor feel for take off in the torque feel difference and way more low end and all across the board torque even with a milder cam..... __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data,Red Carbon Interior, Nav, RotoFab Big Gulp , Elite x2ultra, Borla ATAK, Driveshaft shop, BMR susp, Speed covers, intercoolers, ATI , 2650 MAG, DSX lid, 103 NW, TSP Longtubes & cats, LPE, 1le mods, ,LME cover, Katech pump and chain, Trunnions, BTR stage 2, LPE boostapump, Gforce, Speed eng , Granetteli, etc etc

06-27-2017, 12:47 PM	#1
aabiuso Drives: 2012 2ss m6 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: long island Posts: 6	New short block build Hey guys I recently blew up my ls3 over the weekend...#1piston went through the side of the block!! My car is a 2012 2ss with Texas speed head cam package prc heads and stage 3 cam, ported intake and throttle body,kooks headers, stainless works chambered exhaust and a tune. Well now with the block being no good i was looking into getting a short block and looking for recommendations. Money is slightly tight and this will be a long process but starting my research. I was looking at the Texas speed 418 and 427 stroker short blocks but was wondering if anyone has experience with them or any others. Any info would be greatly appreciated

06-27-2017, 02:22 PM	#2
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	I just had an engine built. My advice would be to get quotes from several builders and see which fits your budget. There are many, many engine builders out there. You'll likely find all of them are very close to each other.

06-27-2017, 03:18 PM	#3
aabiuso Drives: 2012 2ss m6 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: long island Posts: 6	Yea that's what I was figuring

06-27-2017, 03:19 PM	#4
aabiuso Drives: 2012 2ss m6 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: long island Posts: 6	Does anyone have info or experience with Texas speed short blocks though

06-27-2017, 08:48 PM	#6
aabiuso Drives: 2012 2ss m6 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: long island Posts: 6	thanks for the response, i am very pleased with their head/cam package that is on the car...still trying to figure out why the piston failed drastically...another thin, does anyone know if they sell single heads cause I'm pretty sure the one side is trashed considering a bunch of chunks of the piston along with what looks like a quart of oil were sitting in the intake manifold lol

06-28-2017, 07:32 PM	#9
aabiuso Drives: 2012 2ss m6 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: long island Posts: 6	ive never dealt with them personally, I bought the car with the work done to it already(my mistake for dealing with someones work I don't know) hey Christian, are you happy with the stroker what kind of numbers are you making with it and any problems with the big stroke or any other issues

06-29-2017, 02:47 AM	#10
Quake954rr Drives: 2015 2SS/RS 1LE (Red Hot) Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: NC Posts: 71	Pm me Sir got several shortt blocks and long blocks available . Also several blocks machined and ready to assembly. All work has been done by top tier LS race engine builder in the country . Thanm you look forward to helping you as much as I can .

07-02-2017, 10:19 PM	#13
Yay240 Drives: R32 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bay Area Posts: 28	Hey bro I just had a new engine rebuilt to replace my engine that had the same thing happen to you! I just had my #2 piston blow into a million pieces and go out the side of the block. I had a shop in Sacramento that specializes in LS build my motor. The cost break down was below: Long Block- 750 File Rings- 150 Headwork- 300 (damaged due to the piston exploding) Machine Shop Work- 300 Cost of used bare block- 1000 I brought him all the parts that I had purchased from TSP.