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Duke · 12-07-2009, 08:52 AM

My 1SS/RS A6 should be arriving in about 3 weeks. With the recent wet and even snowy weather down here, I was wondering if my Camaro would be breaking loose and sliding all over the place in such weather. Will I have to drive like an old lady or can I go for it and let the Traction Control and StabliTrack take care of me?

JJ#48Racing · 12-07-2009, 09:14 AM

While traction control and StabiliTrack are wonderful tools in saving your behind, they cannot defy the laws of physics. You still need to be carefull when driving in rain and snow. You won't have the same traction as dry weather.

Blade · 12-07-2009, 09:17 AM

Growing up in Philly area, I never drove any car FWD/AWD/RWD more than 45 mph. The variables just quadruple when you got any faster than that.

Phoenix328 · 12-07-2009, 09:17 AM

just drove in the snow today....car performs beautifully. when i got on a snowy side street i gave it the gas and the computer cut the power and handled the brakes so i did not slide and i barely had to do any steering corrections. and the best part is the car will move forward from a dead stop with little to no wheel spin. btw i still have the summer tires on there and have no reservations for keeping them on there all winter.

Mzodarg · 12-07-2009, 09:23 AM

For fun I will shut both off... :o) Two orange lights warning you they are off on the dash. Leaves some serious rubber from both rear tires.

Duke · 12-07-2009, 09:24 AM

Thanks Pheonix, thats what I was looking for...real world experience. 400 hp and rain and snow usually don't mix to well. Sounds like GM did a great job with this issue. I can't wait to try it out.

karr1008 · 12-07-2009, 09:26 AM

Especially when you drive the car after a few minutes from a very cold start say... 27 degrees... the car gets tail happy really easy.

scared the $#!t out of me twice but, now, I let it sit for a few minutes until the engine idles and until the cabin warms enough. I also lower my tire pressure a bit for better traction. It works.
Just make sure you monitor your tires regularly as the heat and cold makes the TCM readings go crazy sometimes.

As an advice, no matter what car, always use precautionary measures.
I used to have an STi (awd) and when it was icy out there even with snow tires the car drove kind of crazy.

molsonbrador · 12-07-2009, 07:02 PM

high performance summer tires become hockey pucks around the freezing mark - and the colder it is, the harder they become.
If you're out on a dry day with the P Zeros, just take it really easy.
The cold will not hurt anything or cause damage.
from another poster, garfin.
ur driving on cold ground with rock hard tires, not a good combo.

bluch · 12-07-2009, 07:15 PM

i have driven it in deep snow (1 foot or so)

i will direct to my thread about my winter tires. Post #31 is my experience with the "traction control system"

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...t=47939&page=2

SRM · 12-07-2009, 08:19 PM

For 6.5 years I owned an LS1 camaro with about 350 HP, 6 speed. With all seasons the traction control was very helpful. I eventually purchased snow/ice tires and that was a huge improvement. In deep snow where the car was plowing, it was better to turn off the traction control and just let the rear wheels spin. The snow tires pulled through every time.

I should be receiving my snow tires for my new car tomorrow.

Michael_Js · 12-07-2009, 08:21 PM

Well, no snow here, but tons of rain! I "gently" tried to spin out the tires on take offs and some aggressive turns and I could feel the wheels correcting themselves. Pretty cool! I had no issues driving today - first time she's been in the rain, and it's been pouring!!

mikedcmf · 12-07-2009, 08:23 PM

Get ready to park it for the winter. You'll be much happier in the spring with a brand new shiny car (car? I meant badass Camaro

)

full of days · 12-07-2009, 08:24 PM

What is "Snow" ???

carfansince73 · 12-07-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix328

btw i still have the summer tires on there and have no reservations for keeping them on there all winter.

You're crazy! IMO.

After reading this article at Edmunds, I'd rethink that, especially after reading the horrible braking summer tires have on snow. We don't want anymore crunched Camaros.

Edmunds winter tire test

Quote:

And that brings us to our next test: full stops with ABS engaged. Here again the snow tires dominate, stopping from 40 mph in 156 feet, some 28 feet shorter than the all-season tires' 184-foot performance. Meanwhile, our summer tires skate to an ultimate distance of 351 feet, the ABS actuator rattling for all it's worth the whole way.

This was a Civic, but still scary..

12-07-2009, 08:52 AM	#1
Duke Drives: 2010 Red SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lake Jackson, TX Posts: 476	Who's Tested Traction Control and StabiliTrack My 1SS/RS A6 should be arriving in about 3 weeks. With the recent wet and even snowy weather down here, I was wondering if my Camaro would be breaking loose and sliding all over the place in such weather. Will I have to drive like an old lady or can I go for it and let the Traction Control and StabliTrack take care of me?

12-07-2009, 09:23 AM	#5
Mzodarg Remembering those in Blue Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Blk w/IOM Int Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 479	For fun I will shut both off... :o) Two orange lights warning you they are off on the dash. Leaves some serious rubber from both rear tires. __________________ SOLD. www.harleytechtalk.org

12-07-2009, 09:26 AM	#7
karr1008 Supercharging Drives: 20XX Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N. Alabama Posts: 178 View My Garage	Especially when you drive the car after a few minutes from a very cold start say... 27 degrees... the car gets tail happy really easy. scared the $#!t out of me twice but, now, I let it sit for a few minutes until the engine idles and until the cabin warms enough. I also lower my tire pressure a bit for better traction. It works. Just make sure you monitor your tires regularly as the heat and cold makes the TCM readings go crazy sometimes. As an advice, no matter what car, always use precautionary measures. I used to have an STi (awd) and when it was icy out there even with snow tires the car drove kind of crazy. __________________ _____________________________________ In Camaro Standby mode

12-07-2009, 07:15 PM	#9
bluch OH CANADA! Drives: 2011 RAM 1500 LARAMIE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB, CAN Posts: 3,930 View My Garage	i have driven it in deep snow (1 foot or so) i will direct to my thread about my winter tires. Post #31 is my experience with the "traction control system" http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...t=47939&page=2 __________________ Had to trade in the Camaro for a truck :(, but hopefully I can join the Camaro family again one day

12-07-2009, 08:21 PM	#11
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	Well, no snow here, but tons of rain! I "gently" tried to spin out the tires on take offs and some aggressive turns and I could feel the wheels correcting themselves. Pretty cool! I had no issues driving today - first time she's been in the rain, and it's been pouring!! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

12-07-2009, 09:14 AM	#2
JJ#48Racing Drives: 1998 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,115	While traction control and StabiliTrack are wonderful tools in saving your behind, they cannot defy the laws of physics. You still need to be carefull when driving in rain and snow. You won't have the same traction as dry weather.

12-07-2009, 09:17 AM	#3
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	Growing up in Philly area, I never drove any car FWD/AWD/RWD more than 45 mph. The variables just quadruple when you got any faster than that.

12-07-2009, 09:17 AM	#4
Phoenix328 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS IBM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Posts: 347	just drove in the snow today....car performs beautifully. when i got on a snowy side street i gave it the gas and the computer cut the power and handled the brakes so i did not slide and i barely had to do any steering corrections. and the best part is the car will move forward from a dead stop with little to no wheel spin. btw i still have the summer tires on there and have no reservations for keeping them on there all winter. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS/RS IBM 6M 1100: 07-01-09 4000: 08-25-09 4200: 08-25-09 5000: 09-02-09 6000: 09-02-09 2000: 07-24-09 2500: 07-29-09 3000: 07-30-09 3100: 08-02-09 3300: 08-05-09 TPW 08-17-09 3400: 08-13-09 3800: 08-24-09

12-07-2009, 09:24 AM	#6
Duke Drives: 2010 Red SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lake Jackson, TX Posts: 476	Thanks Pheonix, thats what I was looking for...real world experience. 400 hp and rain and snow usually don't mix to well. Sounds like GM did a great job with this issue. I can't wait to try it out.

12-07-2009, 07:02 PM	#8
molsonbrador Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2018 Colorado Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 2,207	high performance summer tires become hockey pucks around the freezing mark - and the colder it is, the harder they become. If you're out on a dry day with the P Zeros, just take it really easy. The cold will not hurt anything or cause damage. from another poster, garfin. ur driving on cold ground with rock hard tires, not a good combo.

12-07-2009, 08:19 PM	#10
SRM New England Daily Driver Drives: 2010 2SS RS CGM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: RI Posts: 290	For 6.5 years I owned an LS1 camaro with about 350 HP, 6 speed. With all seasons the traction control was very helpful. I eventually purchased snow/ice tires and that was a huge improvement. In deep snow where the car was plowing, it was better to turn off the traction control and just let the rear wheels spin. The snow tires pulled through every time. I should be receiving my snow tires for my new car tomorrow.

12-07-2009, 08:23 PM	#12
mikedcmf Mike Drives: 2010 2SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northwood, Ohio Posts: 63	Get ready to park it for the winter. You'll be much happier in the spring with a brand new shiny car (car? I meant badass Camaro )

12-07-2009, 08:24 PM	#13
full of days Drives: Camaro GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 723	What is "Snow" ???