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xXSharkfhinXx · 02-13-2020, 11:49 PM

Bought a kn air charger.... it was on for a week and the car starts to pull back intermittently at fractions of a second often when cruising anywhere between 60 and 75... tried cleaning maf sensor, nope, actually the pulling back got heavier....called dynosteve and he says put the stock cai back on and see if it still pulls back, well I did, got back on the highway to run car and see and bam, the pulling back stopped.... what a waste of a 300 dollar kn cai....it's been cleaned, repackaged in original box and ready for return....

thanks DynoSteve....

SSammy · 02-14-2020, 02:40 AM

That’s a bummer. No problems with my Cold Air Inductions intake and I haven’t heard anyone complain about CAI actually. It’s a little more money but it’s a good quality product. Roto-Fab makes a good kit too. And I agree With ls3Blackwidow’s statement, a freshly oiled filter that’s still wet can cause issues.

102SS · 02-14-2020, 07:42 AM

I bought one used from a friend who was going turbo and I have had zero issues with it.

Bigdumogre · 02-14-2020, 08:13 AM

I have a K&N cai on my SS and zero problems at all. Sounds great and pretty comparable to the Roto fab one and $200 cheaper.

1JEWLDSSRS · 02-14-2020, 08:27 AM

I have a K&N on my SS for 9 yrs and no issues at all, yet.. Cleaned and re oiled the filter many times...

xXSharkfhinXx · 02-14-2020, 08:58 AM

who knows, switching it out stopped the issue

Black 6.2L SS · 02-14-2020, 09:01 AM

Try resetting the PCM by doing the free fuse pull. Install your K&N filter system. Pull fuses 5 and 20 under the hood and let the car sit overnight. Reinstall the fuses the next day. When you start the car drive normal and let the pcm “re-learn.” It may adapt to the increased air and correct your problem.

I have run a CAI brand system for 1 year with no problems and enjoy it.

Moto-Mojo · 02-14-2020, 09:07 AM

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xXSharkfhinXx · 02-14-2020, 10:03 AM

to be honest i am really curious to know where the issue was....facts say that placing my stock air filter back on stopped the issue...at first once the kn air charger was put on car step by step correctly, there were no issues for a few days and then the slightest pull backs were happening...evidently the maf was having issues? could it be not enough air going thru the hose that leads out of front chamber of cai to the engine not be enough(pcv hose)?....i mean the air flow i assume was increased because the giant kn air filter was exposed....issues or no issues are the responses but just curious to know what was the actual problem...to late now, kn heading back to factory...im gonna go roto fab next

Greenhornet2 · 02-14-2020, 10:09 AM

I would send back the K&N and get a good cold air system. The K&N I had on my car was junk, I bought it with it, it was a hot air induction system, no sealing off from the hot underhood air. CAI is one of the best and has been dyno proven by Jannetty when they tested multiple set ups. Works especially well with a JRE scoop

davidscamaro · 02-14-2020, 10:42 AM

You could have one of the weak maf sensor's , many camaros came from the fatory with maf sensor that could not handle any changes to the motor.

The good ones are marked with a letter before numbers there stamped with say like "k23" and a weak one would just be stamped with only numbers like "43"

Was a big problem with early SS cars, I'd look in to it

InFiD3ViL · 02-14-2020, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by davidscamaro

You could have one of the weak maf sensor's , many camaros came from the fatory with maf sensor that could not handle any changes to the motor.

The good ones are marked with a letter before numbers there stamped with say like "k23" and a weak one would just be stamped with only numbers like "43"

Was a big problem with early SS cars, I'd look in to it

Yeak Shark, I would check this out. Pull your MAF when you get a chance. The weak MAfs can work fine on a stock configuration, but once airflow increases they are unable to scale properly.

Avenging Orange · 02-14-2020, 02:04 PM

I know in other post you have talked of headers and cat backs, etc. Did you ever get them and install them? Was it tuned? If so, did you get the CAI after or before tune?

Bigdumogre · 02-14-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Yeak Shark, I would check this out. Pull your MAF when you get a chance. The weak MAfs can work fine on a stock configuration, but once airflow increases they are unable to scale properly.

Gm stock MAF sensors are still the best ? Or is there a aftermarket better version ?

02-13-2020, 11:49 PM	#1
xXSharkfhinXx Drives: 2015 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Louisiana Posts: 174	Disappointing cai story Bought a kn air charger.... it was on for a week and the car starts to pull back intermittently at fractions of a second often when cruising anywhere between 60 and 75... tried cleaning maf sensor, nope, actually the pulling back got heavier....called dynosteve and he says put the stock cai back on and see if it still pulls back, well I did, got back on the highway to run car and see and bam, the pulling back stopped.... what a waste of a 300 dollar kn cai....it's been cleaned, repackaged in original box and ready for return.... thanks DynoSteve.... __________________ Darkness

02-14-2020, 07:42 AM	#3
102SS waiting at the tree Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 4,347	I bought one used from a friend who was going turbo and I have had zero issues with it. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS A6 Just a few bolt-ons and appearance doo dads

02-14-2020, 08:27 AM	#5
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,826	I have a K&N on my SS for 9 yrs and no issues at all, yet.. Cleaned and re oiled the filter many times... __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

02-14-2020, 08:58 AM	#6
xXSharkfhinXx Drives: 2015 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Louisiana Posts: 174	who knows, switching it out stopped the issue __________________ Darkness

02-14-2020, 09:07 AM	#8
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 4,210	Never Look Back! __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

02-14-2020, 02:40 AM	#2
SSammy Drives: 2015 2SS A6 Commemorative Edition Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Utah Posts: 433 View My Garage	That’s a bummer. No problems with my Cold Air Inductions intake and I haven’t heard anyone complain about CAI actually. It’s a little more money but it’s a good quality product. Roto-Fab makes a good kit too. And I agree With ls3Blackwidow’s statement, a freshly oiled filter that’s still wet can cause issues.

02-14-2020, 08:13 AM	#4
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,452	I have a K&N cai on my SS and zero problems at all. Sounds great and pretty comparable to the Roto fab one and $200 cheaper.

02-14-2020, 09:01 AM	#7
Black 6.2L SS Drives: 2014 1SS/RS, LS3, NPP Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 184	Try resetting the PCM by doing the free fuse pull. Install your K&N filter system. Pull fuses 5 and 20 under the hood and let the car sit overnight. Reinstall the fuses the next day. When you start the car drive normal and let the pcm “re-learn.” It may adapt to the increased air and correct your problem. I have run a CAI brand system for 1 year with no problems and enjoy it.

02-14-2020, 10:03 AM	#9
xXSharkfhinXx Drives: 2015 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Louisiana Posts: 174	to be honest i am really curious to know where the issue was....facts say that placing my stock air filter back on stopped the issue...at first once the kn air charger was put on car step by step correctly, there were no issues for a few days and then the slightest pull backs were happening...evidently the maf was having issues? could it be not enough air going thru the hose that leads out of front chamber of cai to the engine not be enough(pcv hose)?....i mean the air flow i assume was increased because the giant kn air filter was exposed....issues or no issues are the responses but just curious to know what was the actual problem...to late now, kn heading back to factory...im gonna go roto fab next __________________ Darkness Last edited by xXSharkfhinXx; 02-14-2020 at 02:24 PM.

02-14-2020, 10:09 AM	#10
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	I would send back the K&N and get a good cold air system. The K&N I had on my car was junk, I bought it with it, it was a hot air induction system, no sealing off from the hot underhood air. CAI is one of the best and has been dyno proven by Jannetty when they tested multiple set ups. Works especially well with a JRE scoop __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

02-14-2020, 10:42 AM	#11
davidscamaro Drives: 2010 SS/RS M6 BIG cam Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: McDonald's DT Posts: 856	You could have one of the weak maf sensor's , many camaros came from the fatory with maf sensor that could not handle any changes to the motor. The good ones are marked with a letter before numbers there stamped with say like "k23" and a weak one would just be stamped with only numbers like "43" Was a big problem with early SS cars, I'd look in to it __________________ BIG cam ...... 305 45 18 Mickys ...... BMR suspensions

02-14-2020, 02:04 PM	#13
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	I know in other post you have talked of headers and cat backs, etc. Did you ever get them and install them? Was it tuned? If so, did you get the CAI after or before tune? __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!