Whipple vs ECS super charger - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

jokrz187 · 05-27-2021, 10:29 AM

Looking on opinions between these two. I am looking at super chargers and the shop near me recommended either of these. I am not too familiar with ECS so I wanted to see if anybody has it and what they think. Also any others that have great knowledge of the two that can break down some differences and similarities. Thank you in advance

Greenhornet2 · 05-27-2021, 10:38 AM

End goals?
Whipple ton of low end grunt peaks at about 900WHP with all supporting mods, harder on drivetrain due to the instapower
Centri still makes a ton of torque just comes on easier and not quite as low rpm. some of them are very loud sounding like a jet engine (personally hate that). Typically have more peak HP potential, easy to swap head units if you need bigger.
My experience is with a whipple though, haven't driven a centri on these cars.

gunchamp · 05-27-2021, 12:08 PM

Centri here and am very happy. ESS is the system I went with and other than crap directions, the kit is top quality and the price is damn good compared to others. Greens post above nailed down the differences.

gunchamp · 05-27-2021, 12:09 PM

Also, the ESS system allows the easy swap of many different head units. You could swap in heads that could support well north of 1k whp. Simply unbolt and bolt the new one on. Its a great system

TheFlyingBananaSS · 05-27-2021, 01:21 PM

I have the ECS Novi 1500. Love it. The car is a beast. Very simple to increase boost. They also work really well with a nice cam. I'm at 710rwhp but could easily go 900 but then drive line would start to need upgrades too. Highly recommend ECS because their customer support is so good.

Chris49066SS · 05-27-2021, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingBananaSS

I have the ECS Novi 1500. Love it. The car is a beast. Very simple to increase boost. They also work really well with a nice cam. I'm at 710rwhp but could easily go 900 but then drive line would start to need upgrades too. Highly recommend ECS because their customer support is so good.

I am going to do the driveline and all supporting mods first. A TH400, DSS driveshaft, and a ZL1 diff with a TrueTrac and DSS 1500hp axles looks like the way to go. Your thoughts?

gtstorey · 05-27-2021, 02:50 PM

What's the car used for?

ETWhite53 · 05-27-2021, 03:00 PM

Well as soon as it comes in I'll let you know about my Whipple.

fz4k98 · 05-27-2021, 03:14 PM

I have a whipple and it has been trouble free for 25k+. Great power and drives like stock car unless your on it. the torque is amazing throughout the power curve.

The driveline can handle it until you get tires that hook, then it is break and repair time.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 05-27-2021, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

I am going to do the driveline and all supporting mods first. A TH400, DSS driveshaft, and a ZL1 diff with a TrueTrac and DSS 1500hp axles looks like the way to go. Your thoughts?

If you plan on more than 700whp you should definitely consider it. I may wind up doing them myself too.

gm2376 · 05-27-2021, 05:31 PM

the ESC bracket is awesome...started with a 1500 and moved to a 2200 easily...I know some may fine the sound annoying.....but nothing beats that whooosh to me.

1JEWLDSSRS · 05-27-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

I am going to do the driveline and all supporting mods first. A TH400, DSS driveshaft, and a ZL1 diff with a TrueTrac and DSS 1500hp axles looks like the way to go. Your thoughts?

Chris, the only thing I can chime in on is the DSS 1pc driveshaft, you're gonna love the "instant" response of the power to the rear with it! No rubber couplers to have that blah lag before she moves. Plus it being so light the engine will rev up pretty quickly, almost like a UDP, or a gear change but just a drive shaft. I really like it, plus I have the solid cradle mounts which helps too..

gunchamp · 05-27-2021, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

I am going to do the driveline and all supporting mods first. A TH400, DSS driveshaft, and a ZL1 diff with a TrueTrac and DSS 1500hp axles looks like the way to go. Your thoughts?

Everything you said there minus the th400 is what im doing. Ill invest the money in either building my 6l80 or going with a 6l90. I stuck a 3 speed in another car i had once amd swore id never do it again. I drive mine enough where i dont want to go too for towards the track only kind of setup. Another vote for the dss as well. I got the carbom fiber ome and it is super nice and very light

jokrz187 · 05-27-2021, 07:45 PM

Thank you for all the input, to answer some questions thrown at me. My goal is to have about 750whp +-. Nothing too crazy and I don't plan to drag race it except for the occasional track day that a group of us put together. This car was a daily drive but with retirement from the air force and a new job. I now have the ability to have just a commuter car and this Camaro will be to go have fun when I want to. I don't plan to go E85 at all. It is hard to find in the NOVA area and I just plain don't want to.

I already have TSP headers, hi flow cats, I am currently Dyno tuned. And a CAI by Vavaram. Oh and catch can.

I saw an older thread about this but wanted a more up to date feedback from individuals today. I plan to upgrade the rear/front bushings and some other suspension parts.

05-27-2021, 10:29 AM	#1
jokrz187 Drives: 2015 1SS Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 405 View My Garage	Whipple vs ECS super charger Looking on opinions between these two. I am looking at super chargers and the shop near me recommended either of these. I am not too familiar with ECS so I wanted to see if anybody has it and what they think. Also any others that have great knowledge of the two that can break down some differences and similarities. Thank you in advance __________________ ------------------------------------------------------- Custom TSP Stage 2 Cam/GPI intake Ported Rod Mod /VARARAM CAI/Mishimoto Catch Can/1 LE front & rear sway bars/ engine cover/fuse box custom painted, strut tower brace, Texas Speed LT, Hi Flo Cats, Magnum Tru-X pipe, NGK Spark Plugs, PCM Spark Plug Wire, Painted Calipers, CF Spoiler w/wicker bill.

05-27-2021, 10:38 AM	#2
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	End goals? Whipple ton of low end grunt peaks at about 900WHP with all supporting mods, harder on drivetrain due to the instapower Centri still makes a ton of torque just comes on easier and not quite as low rpm. some of them are very loud sounding like a jet engine (personally hate that). Typically have more peak HP potential, easy to swap head units if you need bigger. My experience is with a whipple though, haven't driven a centri on these cars. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

05-27-2021, 12:08 PM	#3
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	Centri here and am very happy. ESS is the system I went with and other than crap directions, the kit is top quality and the price is damn good compared to others. Greens post above nailed down the differences. __________________ 15 Camaro SS- GPI max top end, ESS Vortech V3 9psi, ID 1050s, ZL1 pump, JMS bap, Long tubes, Corsa extreme, Circle D pro 5C, 391 rear, DSS carbon drive shaft, poly cradle bushings, tuned by Ted Jannetty and much much more

05-27-2021, 12:09 PM	#4
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	Also, the ESS system allows the easy swap of many different head units. You could swap in heads that could support well north of 1k whp. Simply unbolt and bolt the new one on. Its a great system __________________ 15 Camaro SS- GPI max top end, ESS Vortech V3 9psi, ID 1050s, ZL1 pump, JMS bap, Long tubes, Corsa extreme, Circle D pro 5C, 391 rear, DSS carbon drive shaft, poly cradle bushings, tuned by Ted Jannetty and much much more

05-27-2021, 01:21 PM	#5
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,262	I have the ECS Novi 1500. Love it. The car is a beast. Very simple to increase boost. They also work really well with a nice cam. I'm at 710rwhp but could easily go 900 but then drive line would start to need upgrades too. Highly recommend ECS because their customer support is so good. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

05-27-2021, 02:50 PM	#7
gtstorey Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2,L99, LSA SC Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,450	What's the car used for? Last edited by gtstorey; 05-27-2021 at 03:15 PM. Reason: grammer

05-27-2021, 03:00 PM	#8
ETWhite53 Drives: '2012 Camaro SS/RS 2SS Convertible Join Date: May 2021 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 8	Well as soon as it comes in I'll let you know about my Whipple.

05-27-2021, 03:14 PM	#9
fz4k98 Drives: 2013 1ss Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: WI. Posts: 569	I have a whipple and it has been trouble free for 25k+. Great power and drives like stock car unless your on it. the torque is amazing throughout the power curve. The driveline can handle it until you get tires that hook, then it is break and repair time.

05-27-2021, 05:31 PM	#11
gm2376 Drives: 2010 Black 2ss Camaro SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 1,063	the ESC bracket is awesome...started with a 1500 and moved to a 2200 easily...I know some may fine the sound annoying.....but nothing beats that whooosh to me. __________________ Apex VS-5RS Forged Wheels,Dart 388,ECS Supercharger 2200x, E85 Flex Fuel sensor, Dart 388 , B&M Tranny Cooler, Vigilante 4000 Triple Disc TC,Katech Ported Heads, Texas Speed Sheet Metal Intake, ECS Big Blower Cam,ID 1700s, Fore Triple Pumps, E85,ATI Super Dampner, KW V3 Coilovers, Pfadt front and rear sway bars,Pfadt Trailing arms and toe rods,ZL1 Rear Diff, RPM 6l90e level 10 Tranny, SW Long Tubes no cats,Nick Williams Boosted 103mm TB, Dr Phil Tune,Borla Atak...955rwhp/967rwtq

05-27-2021, 07:45 PM	#14
jokrz187 Drives: 2015 1SS Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 405 View My Garage	Thank you for all the input, to answer some questions thrown at me. My goal is to have about 750whp +-. Nothing too crazy and I don't plan to drag race it except for the occasional track day that a group of us put together. This car was a daily drive but with retirement from the air force and a new job. I now have the ability to have just a commuter car and this Camaro will be to go have fun when I want to. I don't plan to go E85 at all. It is hard to find in the NOVA area and I just plain don't want to. I already have TSP headers, hi flow cats, I am currently Dyno tuned. And a CAI by Vavaram. Oh and catch can. I saw an older thread about this but wanted a more up to date feedback from individuals today. I plan to upgrade the rear/front bushings and some other suspension parts. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------- Custom TSP Stage 2 Cam/GPI intake Ported Rod Mod /VARARAM CAI/Mishimoto Catch Can/1 LE front & rear sway bars/ engine cover/fuse box custom painted, strut tower brace, Texas Speed LT, Hi Flo Cats, Magnum Tru-X pipe, NGK Spark Plugs, PCM Spark Plug Wire, Painted Calipers, CF Spoiler w/wicker bill.