What's needed to get Camaro to super car type performance? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

TOBY J · 01-04-2010, 12:28 AM

I'm new to the site and have a performance question. If the SS is capable of a 0-60 time of near 4.5 what mods are needed and the added cost to the car to get supercar type performance? such as like the GTR or 911TT
thanks in advance

Number 3 · 01-04-2010, 07:45 AM

First let's say super cars are 3.5 seconds to 60 mph and a top speed of 200 mph and can run the 'ring in under 7:30. If you agree with that then you need a ton of HP. Probably 750 considering the ZR1 is making 630 and weighs 600 pounds less. You'd need massive braking improvements as most super cars are sporting ceramic discs. And probably some chassis tweaks.

Keep in mind the Camarowas never intended to run with cars costing $100,000 and up so you would need a lot to get there.

Dave Coyle · 01-04-2010, 08:04 AM

Toby, if you are thinking on getting one and doing the mods to get your "super car", yes they can be done and as #3 said, it will take a lot of things but they can be done and you will still come in under the $100,000 of the above figure. A supercharger, CAI, long tube headers and exhaust, custom cam and a dyno tune will get you close to the HP you will need at a price some where around $15,000 and then you will need to address the chassis with upgraded componites. (Shocks, bushings, lowering, brakes, tires, etc.) This will get the cost up there but you will have a beast if you have the money and want a different kind of a "super car".

AlSuwaidi · 01-04-2010, 08:07 AM

what you could do would be the following:

Supercharger (vortech or magna)
Headers 1 7/8"
Xpipe & cat back
Some cam set up

Thats for power..

Then pedders suspension the best setup you can find
upgraded brakes..

Thats for handling

If you want to loose weight get as many body parts removed as possible and replaced with carbon fiber parts..

Anything else people?

gold5000000 · 01-04-2010, 08:49 AM

you could with alot of upgrades to suspension, braking, HP, but there is one thing, that you cant really change. that is the big flat font of this car. Its not meant to go much over the speed limiter without breaking apart. The car is also too tall to handle like a super car. An example of trying to make a car performer like a super car is the Golf GTI

east TX Muscle cars · 01-04-2010, 10:42 AM

the HP is easy to make up, is the Diet you have to put your car on thats harder! 30-40 K we can build you a 800-1000 HP car with just abotu every bell and whistle you can think of!

JohnInSoCal · 01-04-2010, 03:51 PM

the 3.5 to 60 is probably doable with 530 HP or so. My fastest so far is 3.8 but with a better driver might be able to get 3.6 with 500HP, maybe somebody on here already is in that 3.5 second range ?

*Camaro_Corvette* · 01-04-2010, 03:55 PM

The car would definitely need a diet. And adding a NOS sticker gains you the required amount of horsepower necessary...

lawdogg149 · 01-04-2010, 03:55 PM

Well I just returned from Sebring where I ran with Chin Motorsports. I ran with and out ran many exotics and domestic super cars. Sure I have many mods but still only add up to less than $55,000 for the whole car. Get some power adder I choose Turbo for a good reason........ And some Pfadt sways, BMR suspension parts, Hawk pads and go kick some super car butt. As I told many its not all about the car its more the driver.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 01-04-2010, 11:34 PM

We have exactly what is needed.

WWW.ADMPERFORMANCE.COM

Andy

coolman · 01-04-2010, 11:36 PM

you only need one thing and that's money. Lots of it though.

hb35man · 01-04-2010, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolman

you only need one thing and that's money. Lots of it though.

And then some more money after that.Speed costs money,how fast do you want to go?

Slowhawk · 01-05-2010, 03:15 PM

To compare it would probly easilly hit $50k for spedd,handling and top speed -correctly. We've built a few Vette's that do all this.They have full suspensions,brakes,stroker/FI motor's ect.

If your just looking for 0-60 or 0-100 thats easy.My personal 1999TA would kill them but in no way would it hit the top speed safely,turn or stop like them.

maximus7969 · 01-05-2010, 04:10 PM

A lot of money and a Mclaren F1

01-04-2010, 12:28 AM	#1
TOBY J Drives: BLOWN CAMARO SS PORSCHE PANNY TURBO Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 262	What's needed to get Camaro to super car type performance? I'm new to the site and have a performance question. If the SS is capable of a 0-60 time of near 4.5 what mods are needed and the added cost to the car to get supercar type performance? such as like the GTR or 911TT thanks in advance

01-04-2010, 07:45 AM	#2
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,301 View My Garage	First let's say super cars are 3.5 seconds to 60 mph and a top speed of 200 mph and can run the 'ring in under 7:30. If you agree with that then you need a ton of HP. Probably 750 considering the ZR1 is making 630 and weighs 600 pounds less. You'd need massive braking improvements as most super cars are sporting ceramic discs. And probably some chassis tweaks. Keep in mind the Camarowas never intended to run with cars costing $100,000 and up so you would need a lot to get there. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

01-04-2010, 08:49 AM	#5
gold5000000 Drives: n/a Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ridgefield, CT Posts: 520	you could with alot of upgrades to suspension, braking, HP, but there is one thing, that you cant really change. that is the big flat font of this car. Its not meant to go much over the speed limiter without breaking apart. The car is also too tall to handle like a super car. An example of trying to make a car performer like a super car is the Golf GTI __________________ Chevy by heat, ford by wallet, american all the way: 2005 Mustang GT CAI, LOng tube headers, x pipe, Xcaliber tuner, Short throw shifter, Shaker 1000, American Racing Rims front:245 rear:285, Custom Red Stripes, 4.10 Rear, Tinted Windows, 325 rwhp, 320 rwtq

01-04-2010, 03:55 PM	#8
Camaro_Corvette 36.58625, -121.7568 Drives: Team 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 23,710 View My Garage	The car would definitely need a diet. And adding a NOS sticker gains you the required amount of horsepower necessary... __________________ I am seriously never serious vv V vv Next order of business

01-04-2010, 03:55 PM	#9
lawdogg149 Drives: Corvette ZO6 CSR edition #47 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calhoun, GA Posts: 766 View My Garage	Well I just returned from Sebring where I ran with Chin Motorsports. I ran with and out ran many exotics and domestic super cars. Sure I have many mods but still only add up to less than $55,000 for the whole car. Get some power adder I choose Turbo for a good reason........ And some Pfadt sways, BMR suspension parts, Hawk pads and go kick some super car butt. As I told many its not all about the car its more the driver. __________________ Nationwide Turf "artificial turf factory"

01-04-2010, 08:04 AM	#3
Dave Coyle Drives: 2010 SS , 1970 Z-28, 2002 Avalanche Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,524 View My Garage	Toby, if you are thinking on getting one and doing the mods to get your "super car", yes they can be done and as #3 said, it will take a lot of things but they can be done and you will still come in under the $100,000 of the above figure. A supercharger, CAI, long tube headers and exhaust, custom cam and a dyno tune will get you close to the HP you will need at a price some where around $15,000 and then you will need to address the chassis with upgraded componites. (Shocks, bushings, lowering, brakes, tires, etc.) This will get the cost up there but you will have a beast if you have the money and want a different kind of a "super car". __________________ IF IT'S WORTH HAVING, IT'S WORTH WAITING FOR!!!! (AND IT WAS) 434RWHP/403RWTQ Livernois Motorsports 2C Cam kit Kooks 1 7/8 LT Headers/Hi-Flo Cats/Corsa Exhaust Roto-Fab CAI / Port Intake Precission 2400/2800 Converter/3.73 AAM gears Livernois Motorsports Tune Best time: 11.97 @ 117 MPH

01-04-2010, 08:07 AM	#4
AlSuwaidi Drives: BLACK LS3 GCC-Spec Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UAE - SHARJAH Posts: 2,824 View My Garage	what you could do would be the following: Supercharger (vortech or magna) Headers 1 7/8" Xpipe & cat back Some cam set up Thats for power.. Then pedders suspension the best setup you can find upgraded brakes.. Thats for handling If you want to loose weight get as many body parts removed as possible and replaced with carbon fiber parts.. Anything else people?

01-04-2010, 10:42 AM	#6
east TX Muscle cars Drives: 2x 05 Vettes/65'AC cobra/68 camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LONGVIEW, TEXAS Posts: 845	the HP is easy to make up, is the Diet you have to put your car on thats harder! 30-40 K we can build you a 800-1000 HP car with just abotu every bell and whistle you can think of!

01-04-2010, 03:51 PM	#7
JohnInSoCal Drives: RJT L99 500HP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 535	the 3.5 to 60 is probably doable with 530 HP or so. My fastest so far is 3.8 but with a better driver might be able to get 3.6 with 500HP, maybe somebody on here already is in that 3.5 second range ?

01-04-2010, 11:34 PM	#10
ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: Anything I want Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DfW - Texas Posts: 5,407	We have exactly what is needed. WWW.ADMPERFORMANCE.COM Andy

01-04-2010, 11:36 PM	#11
coolman Guest Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 4,812	you only need one thing and that's money. Lots of it though.

01-05-2010, 03:15 PM	#13
Slowhawk Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 2,018	To compare it would probly easilly hit $50k for spedd,handling and top speed -correctly. We've built a few Vette's that do all this.They have full suspensions,brakes,stroker/FI motor's ect. If your just looking for 0-60 or 0-100 thats easy.My personal 1999TA would kill them but in no way would it hit the top speed safely,turn or stop like them.

01-05-2010, 04:10 PM	#14
maximus7969 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/sim Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mcallen,tx Posts: 219	A lot of money and a Mclaren F1

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