Interesting but controversial debate...

[Zeus]

What do you guys think?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...bqqCQD9E42R581

Online debate rages over white group's step win

By KATE BRUMBACK and DIONNE WALKER (AP) – 2 days ago

ATLANTA — Visit any of the nation's more than 100 historically black colleges or universities and you'll see clusters of men and women engaged in the rhythmic clapping and foot stomping routines known in black Greek circles as "stepping."

Now a white Arkansas team's win in an Atlanta step competition has started a fiery debate over the African-inspired tradition and whether the integration of a once-ethnically exclusive activity constitutes a form of cultural theft.

"What has happened is black youth culture, what people would call hip hop, sort of made black culture accessible and appealing to all kinds of people," said Walter Kimbrough, president of historically black Philander Smith College in Little Rock, Ark., and an expert on black Greek life. "It really now has become an American experience."

The uproar began when the all-white Zeta Tau Alpha team from the University of Arkansas beat out five other sorority teams to win last weekend's national final in the Sprite Step Off competition. A YouTube video of their performance, inspired by the movie "The Matrix," generated hundreds of comments.

Posters questioned everything from whether a white group should have been allowed to compete to whether judges wowed by the unlikely competitors inflated their scores to let them win.

"Good Job but let the Black folks have their own thing for once!!!" wrote one commenter posting under the name "titetowers" who said the Zeta Tau Alpha team did well but should not have won.

On Thursday, sponsor Coca-Cola announced "scoring discrepancies" and said the runner-up — the Alpha Kappa Alpha team from Indiana University, whose members are black — would share first place and receive the same $100,000 in scholarships that the Zeta Tau Alphas won.

It was unclear what the discrepancies were and Coca-Cola would not elaborate. The tournament began in September with a series of regional qualifying rounds around the country.

While scholars have debated the origin of stepping, the phenomenon is generally believed to have originated with black Greeks around 1969. Some link it to a form of African "gumboot" dancing, which involves performers rhythmically slapping and stamping their feet. It's a form of dance made popular by workers in South African mines.

Pulling from things like military cadences and dance routines, stepping usually involves stomping out rhythms in heavy boots or loud shoes, with emphasis on precision and flair. Step crews often travel from coast to coast to earn cash, trophies and bragging rights for the most precise or clever routine.

In the early 1990s the fierce competition began to gain attention off black campuses, with large sponsors hosting events, Kimbrough said. Before then, competitions were mostly organized by fraternity and sorority chapters.

As the phenomenon expanded, other Greek groups began participating. Now, it's not uncommon for white or Latino Greek groups to participate.

Lawrence Ross, author of "The Divine Nine: The History of African American Fraternities and Sororities, said the increased interest in stepping is a natural evolution, much like other urban staples such as rap music that went from an underground phenomenon to mainstream.

"Others are always going to be attracted to what you're doing and are going to want to participate," said Ross, a member of Alpha Phi Alpha, a historically black fraternity.

He said the nation is integrating more than ever and blacks who embrace President Barack Obama making inroads into previously all-white bastions can't have a double standard.

"If (black Olympian) Shani Davis was prevented from speed skating simply because traditionally, no African-Americans were in the field, we African-Americans would be up in arms," he said.

Zeta Tau Alpha national spokeswoman Christy Barber said the University of Arkansas chapter started stepping 16 years ago and participants were originally mentored by the school's Alpha Kappa Alpha chapter.

Arkansas senior Alexandra Kosmitis said she and her teammates had worked hard and were very excited when they heard they had won Saturday. They didn't feel their title was diminished when Coca-Cola told them they'd have to share it.

"We feel truly blessed to have been part of the competition and to have gotten scholarship money to further our educations," the 21-year-old Pine Bluff, Ark., native said. "The AKA chapter from Indiana University were really nice girls throughout the competition, and we're glad they are also getting scholarship money too."

Kosmitis has been on the step team since she joined the sorority and said it gives her a chance to do an activity she's come to love while bonding with her sorority sisters.

Melody McDowell, a spokeswoman for Alpha Kappa Alpha's national office, attended the competition in Atlanta and said her sorority's members were "very talented and deserved to win, so we're delighted with the outcome."

"We're happy that whatever problem occurred with the judging has been resolved," she said, adding that both teams were "very deserving winners."

McDowell and Barber declined to comment on the Internet controversy, but both said they were disappointed that talented young women who were doing what they love got swept up in an ugly online controversy.

[Moriartii]

I think this is the biggest crock of crap! The only caveat is this, if the scores were indeed inflated then that is on the judges and wrong. However if the white team legitimately won then they should not have to share the title as they won fair. As the one person stated, not allowing the black speed skater to skate would be an outrage. You cant have it both ways. I personally think the best team should win, whether be it black, white or brown.

Cheers
K

[coolman]

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Moriartii

I think this is the biggest crock of crap! The only caveat is this, if the scores were indeed inflated then that is on the judges and wrong. However if the white team legitimately won then they should not have to share the title as they won fair. As the one person stated, not allowing the black speed skater to skate would be an outrage. You cant have it both ways. I personally think the best team should win, whether be it black, white or brown.

Cheers
K

+100%

[Stingr69]

I live in Little Rock - This is a 30,000 Lb elephant in the room. Nobody wants to (can) talk about it and it holds all of us back. A large number of people enjoy the benefits of having the nasty elephant in the room and they have no desire to do anything about it so the elephant stays. The people that are being blamed for the elephant being there are charged with employing others to feed and take care of it. Care and feeding of elephants is very expensive and elephants live a really long time. If you are tired of paying for the elephant's care you pretty much have no choice but to move away to get away from the problem. This elephant is not going to go away any time soon.

-Mark.

[Drew10]

Some weather were having here.....

[Brokinarrow]

So wait.... one group of people, is telling another group of people they can't do something because of the color of their skin? Racism, pure and simple.

[Lava]

It's only good if it benefits ME!!!! I like the "reverse racism" comments. ???WTF???
Definition of Racism - racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics.
Did anyone read the part where it says White or Black or for that matter any particular race in that definition?
People grow up, the only reason it still exists is that one group wants the benefits of it's existence. Cut out the benefits and you will cut the head off of racism. I like everyone until you try to hurt me. I hate lazy, whinny crybabies. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. Should you be given special treatment? Hell No! Work harder and be proud of the things you had to overcome. Tell your children that the only limit to their dreams is lead in their rear.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

So wait.... one group of people, is telling another group of people they can't do something because of the color of their skin? Racism, pure and simple.

[Drew10]

Originally Posted by Lava

It's only good if it benefits ME!!!! I like the "reverse racism" comments. ???WTF???
Definition of Racism - racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics.
Did anyone read the part where it says White or Black or for that matter any particular race in that definition?
People grow up, the only reason it still exists is that one group wants the benefits of it's existence. Cut out the benefits and you will cut the head off of racism. I like everyone until you try to hurt me. I hate lazy, whinny crybabies. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. Should you be given special treatment? Hell No! Work harder and be proud of the things you had to overcome. Tell your children that the only limit to their dreams is lead in their rear.

This guy needs to be a congressman. Tell it like it is and while your at it speak the truth. Nice job.

[Angrybird 12]

bet this thread won't last long....

[AdnanHfuda]

didnt get far in reading the artical but... cultural theft?!?! dear lord ppl are bored blaming other people for things that are completly pointless.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

I'm all for equal rights. However equal rights does not mean special rights. If the competition was for blacks only then let the organization state it as such up front and stick to it. However if they are allowed to do that then there can be no complaining when its whites only or Asian only etc. Equal = Equal. Personally I see nothing wrong with them declaring it a black only competition but again no complaining if another race or group does the same.

I think Affirmative action is basically legalized racism as well.

You can be denied by a school your qualified to get into, based on the color of your skin. How is that Government approved?

[Big Brunsy]

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