Any modded 5th gen SS's here that outrun a stock C6Z? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

thebrander · 05-15-2010, 12:46 AM

We'll we've finally recieved the wife's 2SS and made all the appearance mods (looks so sweet: summit white with black stripes, lowered w/ racing springs, blacked out bowties, and powder coated gloss black RS wheels - I REALLY need to post some pics). I'm still waiting to put her through some high performance driving schools before I give her more torque

. I'm curious though, what would it take to accelerate like a stock C6Z vette? Matching power to weight, she'd need 617 BHP, but that's not the whole story given traction and gearing variables. So, have any of you with "nasty SS's" out run a C6Z? What does it take (assuming good drivers)? I came across an SS the other night on an abandoned air strip of course that sounded like a real monster. I think he said it was all bolt-on's and tune, so I would estimate he was somewhere in the 550 BHP range. It was still no where near enough to keep up. Would 70 BHP do it? The 550 BHP number is also very interesting given that seems to be the target Z28 number.

thebrander · 05-15-2010, 02:34 PM

ackeight · 05-15-2010, 02:37 PM

I've seen stock Z06's run in the low 11's and in the 10's with drag radials. The camaro is going to have to put out some monster HP to get into the 10's. 650RWHP sounds close.

thebrander · 05-15-2010, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ackeight

I've seen stock Z06's run in the low 11's and in the 10's with drag radials. The camaro is going to have to put out some monster HP to get into the 10's. 650RWHP sounds close.

Did you mean BHP? 650 rear translates to 750 brake; that would be more than enough to take out a stock C6Z. I would guess 650RWHP would put an SS in to the mid to low 10's.

franknbeans · 05-15-2010, 02:49 PM

I say toss on a super charger.

thebrander · 05-15-2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franknbeans

I say toss on a super charger.

I'm just wondering what HP level it takes to "break even". It would be cool to have both cars at the same "level". I plan to upgrade the suspension even more to help equalize the handling (we plan to road race together).

ackeight · 05-15-2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebrander

Did you mean BHP? 650 rear translates to 750 brake; that would be more than enough to take out a stock C6Z. I would guess 650RWHP would put an SS in to the mid to low 10's.

No. Look at the mods on the 1/4 miles. they are putting down over 600RWHp

Power Adders (Nitrous, Turbo, Supercharger)

1. OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
2. Midgard/Livernois - 10.44 @ 134.29 mph, (419 cid, Supercharger, Cam, LT, Exhaust, 3.45 gears, DR, Tune, (L99, A6)
3. Bigdog - 10.61 @ 130.19 mph, (Supercharger/YSI, Cam, LT, Meth Inj, 16'' Bogarts, Slicks, Tune), (LS3, M6)
4. Robin Lawrence - 10.82 @ 127.33 mph, (GM Crate, Supercharger/TVS 1900, Heads/Cam, LT, Exhaust, Stall, 18'' DR), (Built 4L80E)
5. SuperchargedSS - 10.99 @ 124.83 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Meth kit, 18'' DR's, Tune, (L99, A6)
6. Larry@SpeedInc - 11.00 @ 126. 70 mph,(Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, LT, Exhaust, 18'' wheels, DR's, Tune),(LS3, M6), (DA + 750 ft.)
7. Jchaluja - 11.30 @ 125.96 mph, (Twin Turbo, Exhaust, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
8. SRT10KLLR - 11.32 @ 129.48 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, Heads/Cam, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Stall, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
9. Boostedyards86 - 11.36 @ 123.97 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, Cam, LT, Exhaust, Meth inj, 17'' ET Streets), (LS3, M6)
10. TandTperformance - 11.50 @ 124.03 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Axles, DR's, Tune, (LS3, M6)
11. Lewylew - 11.54 @ 119.54 mph, (Supercharged/TVS 2300, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, DR's), (L99, A6)
12. JamesFl - 11.57 @ 118.55 mph, (Supercharger/P1, LT, Exhaust, Meth Inj, Stall, T-arm, DR's Tune), (L99, A6)
13. Mod4SS - 11.59 @ 118.20 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, LT, CAI, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
14. Silverfox - 11.66 @ 112.73 mph, (Supercharger/p-1sc, LT, Converter, 18'' DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
15. Pharmd - 11.70 @ 103. 47 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 1900, Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune), (L99, A6)
16. Proroc - 11.93 @ 117.57 mph, (Supercharger, CAI, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6), (DA + 1118 ft.)
17. 69Bird - 11.97 @ 119.90 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, LT, CAI, Tune), (LS3, M6), (DA + 133 ft.)
18. Roc Spo - 11.99 @ 119.30 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, Cam, LT, Exhaust, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
19. D R - 12.39 @ 113.90 mph, (LPE 550, Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, DR's, Tune), (L99 A6)
20. Speed75SS- 12.45 @ 117.52 mph, (LPE 570, Supercharger/TVS 2300, Exhaust, CAI, Tune),(LS3, M6), (DA +2332 ft.)
21. Riderover40 - 12.68 @ 117.03 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Tune), (LS3, M6)
22. d69chris - 12.76 @ 111.14 mph, (Supercharger/Vortec, Exhaust, T-arm, springs), (L99, A6)

thebrander · 05-15-2010, 03:45 PM

Gotcha, which also reminds me I should have just looked up the fast list myself!

I'd like to stay NA so we don't have to worry about heaksoak on the roadcourse, but I'm not sure you can cam an LS3 to 700BHP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ackeight

No. Look at the mods on the 1/4 miles. they are putting down over 600RWHp

Power Adders (Nitrous, Turbo, Supercharger)

1. OrangeChevy - 10.28 @ 134.26 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, Skinny's, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
2. Midgard/Livernois - 10.44 @ 134.29 mph, (419 cid, Supercharger, Cam, LT, Exhaust, 3.45 gears, DR, Tune, (L99, A6)
3. Bigdog - 10.61 @ 130.19 mph, (Supercharger/YSI, Cam, LT, Meth Inj, 16'' Bogarts, Slicks, Tune), (LS3, M6)
4. Robin Lawrence - 10.82 @ 127.33 mph, (GM Crate, Supercharger/TVS 1900, Heads/Cam, LT, Exhaust, Stall, 18'' DR), (Built 4L80E)
5. SuperchargedSS - 10.99 @ 124.83 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Meth kit, 18'' DR's, Tune, (L99, A6)
6. Larry@SpeedInc - 11.00 @ 126. 70 mph,(Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, LT, Exhaust, 18'' wheels, DR's, Tune),(LS3, M6), (DA + 750 ft.)
7. Jchaluja - 11.30 @ 125.96 mph, (Twin Turbo, Exhaust, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
8. SRT10KLLR - 11.32 @ 129.48 mph, (Nitrous/200 shot, Heads/Cam, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Stall, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
9. Boostedyards86 - 11.36 @ 123.97 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, Cam, LT, Exhaust, Meth inj, 17'' ET Streets), (LS3, M6)
10. TandTperformance - 11.50 @ 124.03 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Axles, DR's, Tune, (LS3, M6)
11. Lewylew - 11.54 @ 119.54 mph, (Supercharged/TVS 2300, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, DR's), (L99, A6)
12. JamesFl - 11.57 @ 118.55 mph, (Supercharger/P1, LT, Exhaust, Meth Inj, Stall, T-arm, DR's Tune), (L99, A6)
13. Mod4SS - 11.59 @ 118.20 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, LT, CAI, DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
14. Silverfox - 11.66 @ 112.73 mph, (Supercharger/p-1sc, LT, Converter, 18'' DR's, Tune), (L99, A6)
15. Pharmd - 11.70 @ 103. 47 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 1900, Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune), (L99, A6)
16. Proroc - 11.93 @ 117.57 mph, (Supercharger, CAI, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6), (DA + 1118 ft.)
17. 69Bird - 11.97 @ 119.90 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, LT, CAI, Tune), (LS3, M6), (DA + 133 ft.)
18. Roc Spo - 11.99 @ 119.30 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, Cam, LT, Exhaust, DR's, Tune), (LS3, M6)
19. D R - 12.39 @ 113.90 mph, (LPE 550, Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, DR's, Tune), (L99 A6)
20. Speed75SS- 12.45 @ 117.52 mph, (LPE 570, Supercharger/TVS 2300, Exhaust, CAI, Tune),(LS3, M6), (DA +2332 ft.)
21. Riderover40 - 12.68 @ 117.03 mph, (Supercharger/TVS 2300, CAI, LT, Exhaust, Tune), (LS3, M6)
22. d69chris - 12.76 @ 111.14 mph, (Supercharger/Vortec, Exhaust, T-arm, springs), (L99, A6)

ackeight · 05-15-2010, 05:03 PM

Being in the high 11's is still very respectable and could be done NA with an LS3 i'm sure. At least that is what I'm shooting for.

You could shave a couple hundred pounds off by changing hood,doors,trunk lid ect to carbon fiber. that would set you back a pretty penny however. worth a tenth or two?

thebrander · 05-15-2010, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ackeight

Being in the high 11's is still very respectable and could be done NA with an LS3 i'm sure. At least that is what I'm shooting for.

You could shave a couple hundred pounds off by changing hood,doors,trunk lid ect to carbon fiber. that would set you back a pretty penny however. worth a tenth or two?

High 11's is indeed very fast and thrilling. A buddy of mine has a new CTS-V which is capable of high 11 second runs and as a passenger I swear it feels faster than my C6Z even though I pull away when we race each other. It's funny how desensitized we become from the new "horsepower wars". I believe a stock 2010 Camaro SS is on par with many exotic cars from 2000 (in handling as well). Crazy.

BTW, my CTS-V buddy is about to pulley, tune, and bolt-on to 700 BHP. Hard to believe it's a Cadillac (but we all know it's a

).

05-15-2010, 12:46 AM	#1
thebrander 931HP w/100K mi warranty! Drives: C6Z06 & Gen 5 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 137	Any modded 5th gen SS's here that outrun a stock C6Z? We'll we've finally recieved the wife's 2SS and made all the appearance mods (looks so sweet: summit white with black stripes, lowered w/ racing springs, blacked out bowties, and powder coated gloss black RS wheels - I REALLY need to post some pics). I'm still waiting to put her through some high performance driving schools before I give her more torque . I'm curious though, what would it take to accelerate like a stock C6Z vette? Matching power to weight, she'd need 617 BHP, but that's not the whole story given traction and gearing variables. So, have any of you with "nasty SS's" out run a C6Z? What does it take (assuming good drivers)? I came across an SS the other night on an abandoned air strip of course that sounded like a real monster. I think he said it was all bolt-on's and tune, so I would estimate he was somewhere in the 550 BHP range. It was still no where near enough to keep up. Would 70 BHP do it? The 550 BHP number is also very interesting given that seems to be the target Z28 number.

05-15-2010, 02:49 PM	#5
franknbeans Whipped Drives: 2010 CAMARO Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pittsburgh-ish - PA Posts: 4,216 View My Garage	I say toss on a super charger. __________________ Car of the week 7/7/14

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thebrander 931HP w/100K mi warranty! Drives: C6Z06 & Gen 5 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 137

05-15-2010, 02:37 PM	#3
ackeight Drives: 10' 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rockwall, TX Posts: 1,389 View My Garage	I've seen stock Z06's run in the low 11's and in the 10's with drag radials. The camaro is going to have to put out some monster HP to get into the 10's. 650RWHP sounds close.

05-15-2010, 05:03 PM	#9
ackeight Drives: 10' 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rockwall, TX Posts: 1,389 View My Garage	Being in the high 11's is still very respectable and could be done NA with an LS3 i'm sure. At least that is what I'm shooting for. You could shave a couple hundred pounds off by changing hood,doors,trunk lid ect to carbon fiber. that would set you back a pretty penny however. worth a tenth or two?