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2001ragtop · 11-12-2008, 10:37 AM

Does anyone know if the new Camaro has a drive-by-wire gas pedal (like the new mustang GT)? I would assume if the CTS or GTO has that, then the Camaro has it. I don't think I like that.

LSxJunkie · 11-12-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

Does anyone know if the new Camaro has a drive-by-wire gas pedal (like the new mustang GT)? I would assume if the CTS or GTO has that, then the Camaro has it. I don't think I like that.

LS3s and the 3.x DEI motors are drive by wire.

TomServo · 11-12-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

Does anyone know if the new Camaro has a drive-by-wire gas pedal (like the new mustang GT)? I would assume if the CTS or GTO has that, then the Camaro has it. I don't think I like that.

It's been on the vette since 1997. GM has it dialed in real nice. I never had any issues on my 2 C5's and 2 C6's.

Mr Twisty · 11-12-2008, 10:54 AM

The technology was a little buggy in the early 90's, It's good enough now if no one told you, you wouldn't know it. You may have already driven a 'by wire' car and didn't realize it.

*The_Blur* · 11-12-2008, 10:56 AM

Expect all new cars to be drive-by-wire.

Urthman · 11-12-2008, 11:09 AM

Maybe I'm wrong...but I thought the "old" way was called drive-by-wire...of course I don't know what the "new" way is called if that is the case...It makes more sense to me that if the gas pedal in most new cars is essentially a potentiometer telling a computer how to manipulate the engine it wouldn't be called "drive-by-wire".

Like I said...I might be wrong...in fact, probably am. Can someone clarify this for me?

*The_Blur* · 11-12-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Urthman

Maybe I'm wrong...but I thought the "old" way was called drive-by-wire...of course I don't know what the "new" way is called if that is the case...It makes more sense to me that if the gas pedal in most new cars is essentially a potentiometer telling a computer how to manipulate the engine it wouldn't be called "drive-by-wire".

Like I said...I might be wrong...in fact, probably am. Can someone clarify this for me?

I think it is an ever-improving system, much like comparing early blowers that stick out of muscle car hoods to new blowers that are much more efficient. Before drive-by-wire, there was a mechanical system. Drive-by-wire improves as research and development finds better ways to tune engines to use fuel and feel more responsive to the driver. Someone else, I'm sure, will be able to elaborate more on the specifics of both mechanical and electronic methods of driving.

Mr Twisty · 11-12-2008, 11:24 AM

The old way was 'throttle cable' like on your lawn mower. Throttle by wire is basically like you describe, a throttle position sensor at the pedal feeding signal to the ECU and it feeding signal to an electric motor opening and closing the throttle body.

That's also how they can integrate systems like traction control, the ECU calculates how much throttle you need without roasting tires, not how much throttle your foot wants.

I guess the correct term would be "throttle by electronic signal" rather than cable

CDBiker220 · 11-12-2008, 11:32 AM

Will it be better than on the newer mustangs? I worked at a ford dealership, and if you suddenly stabbed the gas and let off, the car wouldnt even respond to the pedal motion till a half second after you had let off the gas. It wasnt terrible but always annoyed me, it wasnt as responsive as my 98 z28, that has a cable. I havent driven any newer GM cars lately though to compare the mustang too.

*The_Blur* · 11-12-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CDBiker220

Will it be better than on the newer mustangs? I worked at a ford dealership, and if you suddenly stabbed the gas and let off, the car wouldnt even respond to the pedal motion till a half second after you had let off the gas. It wasnt terrible but always annoyed me, it wasnt as responsive as my 98 z28, that has a cable. I havent driven any newer GM cars lately though to compare the mustang too.

That won't be a problem. GM wants you to feel in control of the car. They've worked harder on this car than any in recent memory. I can't imagine them overlooking such a simple problem.

Stevo · 11-12-2008, 11:38 AM

I wonder if this will mean that when you hit the gas and the brake at the same time the gas will shut off? I find it hard to trail-brake and drift with that!!

*The_Blur* · 11-12-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo

I wonder if this will mean that when you hit the gas and the brake at the same time the gas will shut off? I find it hard to trail-brake and drift with that!!

How much drifting are you really going to be doing?

xl1200r · 11-12-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CDBiker220

Will it be better than on the newer mustangs? I worked at a ford dealership, and if you suddenly stabbed the gas and let off, the car wouldnt even respond to the pedal motion till a half second after you had let off the gas. It wasnt terrible but always annoyed me, it wasnt as responsive as my 98 z28, that has a cable. I havent driven any newer GM cars lately though to compare the mustang too.

This is probably more a result of the time it takes for the fuel charge you just dumped into the engine at idle to take effect. These sensors and servos work pretty quick.

Stevo · 11-12-2008, 11:48 AM

None if I can't get control with my outta control ways.

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Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	The old way was 'throttle cable' like on your lawn mower. Throttle by wire is basically like you describe, a throttle position sensor at the pedal feeding signal to the ECU and it feeding signal to an electric motor opening and closing the throttle body. That's also how they can integrate systems like traction control, the ECU calculates how much throttle you need without roasting tires, not how much throttle your foot wants. I guess the correct term would be "throttle by electronic signal" rather than cable __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

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Urthman Future Camaro Owner Drives: 2010 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4dr Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 544 View My Garage	Maybe I'm wrong...but I thought the "old" way was called drive-by-wire...of course I don't know what the "new" way is called if that is the case...It makes more sense to me that if the gas pedal in most new cars is essentially a potentiometer telling a computer how to manipulate the engine it wouldn't be called "drive-by-wire". Like I said...I might be wrong...in fact, probably am. Can someone clarify this for me?

11-12-2008, 11:32 AM	#9
CDBiker220 Drives: 98 camaro z28 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: pittsburgh, pa Posts: 189	Will it be better than on the newer mustangs? I worked at a ford dealership, and if you suddenly stabbed the gas and let off, the car wouldnt even respond to the pedal motion till a half second after you had let off the gas. It wasnt terrible but always annoyed me, it wasnt as responsive as my 98 z28, that has a cable. I havent driven any newer GM cars lately though to compare the mustang too.

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Stevo Drives: Camaro 2010 SIM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 348	I wonder if this will mean that when you hit the gas and the brake at the same time the gas will shut off? I find it hard to trail-brake and drift with that!!

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Stevo Drives: Camaro 2010 SIM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 348	None if I can't get control with my outta control ways.