GM CATCH CAN Warranty Denial PETITION

[Jackass]

Originally Posted by tajefe

+1

I already let my feelings out regarding this issue , on top of that I'm taking my GM associated CD out of circulation , the points in there will be a pain to let it go to the trash can , but I'm sticking with my guts and have moved on
NO Mas , like some well known boxer once said !

Here you go ,,,, I make it my voice

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...rlgu1vcCevnw1A

[RAMTechRob]

Damn, all these last time Camaro owners. I'm sure GM will be going out of business for sure.

[Jackass]

Originally Posted by RAMTechRob

Damn, all these last time Camaro owners. I'm sure GM will be going out of business for sure.

I'm afraid you got that wrong , keep in mind that GM not only makes Camaros ,,just look around
People like myself do buy other products for different uses , but we also have at some point do what we have to do , GM will be still going to build more cars , trucks etc , but they won't be counting my freaking $ , and there is nothing that they can do about it
Why should I keep going to that dentist , if he turns around and destroy the trust built over the years , at some point one realize that there is another dental Doctor capable of doing it right , I'm giving it a try , that's all

[LT1Zob]

You need a new hobby Jackass. Plus, you have nothing to worry about. You have a Fiat 500 anyway right? So why troll here?

Yes, we got it. You will never buy a GM car. 1% vs 99%, CEO pay, rich people, Da Man, yes, all of it, got it. Time to move on brother. Isn't there any injustice to fight on the Fiat 500 forum so you can take a break here for a day?

[MrChrisLS3]

Originally Posted by hawk02

I'm a little surprised at the vendor silence on this. I would think GM's decision to "draw the line" at a catch can will have a profound impact on their business going forward.

I gave up the powertrain warranty on my Camaro 2 yrs ago with a custom tune. I have, however, an Elite catch can on my otherwise stock 2015 Silverado with an extended warranty bought and payed for. I'm seriously debating whether or not to pull the can off.

One thing for sure, I will no longer recommend a catch can, cold air intake or exhaust mod to anyone. I certainly don't want to be responsible for someone losing their powertrain warranty because of my recommendation. I wouldn't be surprised if others share this same sentiment.

I'm not surprised at the silence. In fact I'm a little surprised that Elite has shared as much as they have. There's really nothing that Elite, or any single aftermarket manufacturer can do for this guy, or anyone for that matter. What they can do, and very well may be doing, is teaming up with SEMA, as a collective force to put pressure on all auto manufacturers. Blasting this intention on car forum may hurt this cause more than help it.

As far as some of the simpler to install/uninstall mods, yeah, pull them and put the stock stuff on before going to the dealer for service. Of course, if it's on the side of the road, and the stock pcv tubing is in the garage, that could be a problem.

[NYCamOwner]

Originally Posted by Chevy Fanatic

I for one have made my last purchase from GM. I cannot support any corporation that could care less about their consumers.

I don't think this just a GM issue, I have seen instances where other manufacturers have turned their back on their customers.

[DRKS1D3]

If you want to modify your car, check with dealers first. Find one that is mod friendly. As stated on all of these "catch-can" threads, many members have had absolutely no problems with their modded cars being worked on at GM dealers (myself included).

[Stewpock]

Originally Posted by RAMTechRob

Damn, all these last time Camaro owners. I'm sure GM will be going out of business for sure.

Isn't GM mostly only in business because of the bail out money they took? That's what is constantly repeated on the mustang forums. I don't think this will be the end of GM but it seems like they're slipping back into their old ways of screwing over their consumers. You'd think after the bailout, all their recalls, knowing cars were defective resulting in the deaths of quite a few people. That they would try and do their best to avoid further scandals. I will likely be skipping the 6gen and the C7 corvette. I already went with a new mustang over the camaro not solely due to them not honoring our warranties but my car has been in and out of the shop since I bought it. And no dealership that I've taken it to seems to care.

[gajagfan]

You that are dropping GM as a vendor can get as bent out of shape as you want. News flash!!!! If you alter a manufacturer's system you can face a voiding of the warranty. The biggest joke here is on the non-direct injected V8 cars, the benefit is minimal at best in regards to a catch can. Good luck with having any better luck with Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, etc. The list goes on. It's their warranty. It's their rules. Play by them or face the consequences. I look forward to my next GM purchase, and all that follow after that.

[kmarshall2121]

Originally Posted by Chevy Fanatic

Some say its been over for two days but in my opinion it has only just begun. I hope this impacts GM for years to come. Someone made an extremely bad decision to void an entire powertrain warranty for a simple catch can.

Anybody with automotive experience knows the catch can did not cause this failure, just like we know a catch can is not going to cause axle seals to leak, differential pinion bearing to go out, transmission to fail, but that is exactly what is happening here.

Think about that for just a second, GM is voiding the ENTIRE powertrain warranty due to what amounts to a filter in line between the valve cover and intake manifold. No transmission warranty, no differential warranty, nothing at all in the ENTIRE drivetrain will be covered under warranty due to parts or workmanship failure.

I for one have made my last purchase from GM. I cannot support any corporation that could care less about their consumers.

so you going to start buying Schwinn? all major car manufacturers carry the exact same stipulation in their warranty. hell, roofing contractors do too. If they warranty the roof they put on your house, and you decide to put in a skylight, and it leaks - that's on you. Im not supporting what they do, but if they are going to put out of their pocket to fix a manufacturer defect, they would expect it to be just that - a manufacturer defect. By all these extra mods that are available, these defects cannot be proven they were, or were not caused by the aftermarket modification.

[kmarshall2121]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

You that are dropping GM as a vendor can get as bent out of shape as you want. News flash!!!! If you alter a manufacturer's system you can face a voiding of the warranty. The biggest joke here is on the non-direct injected V8 cars, the benefit is minimal at best in regards to a catch can. Good luck with having any better luck with Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, etc. The list goes on. It's their warranty. It's their rules. Play by them or face the consequences. I look forward to my next GM purchase, and all that follow after that.

well said...

[dotbowels]

The warranty is pretty clear on this. GM $500. Or $1000 won't get you an attorney with the ability to beat GM

GOFUNDMEs are for tragedies not something like this. Dorothy

[Welker2]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

You that are dropping GM as a vendor can get as bent out of shape as you want. News flash!!!! If you alter a manufacturer's system you can face a voiding of the warranty. The biggest joke here is on the non-direct injected V8 cars, the benefit is minimal at best in regards to a catch can. Good luck with having any better luck with Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, etc. The list goes on. It's their warranty. It's their rules. Play by them or face the consequences. I look forward to my next GM purchase, and all that follow after that.

I agree. I know of people who have had warranty issues with Ford & Dodge due to what they felt were non-associated mods. On the flip side, I have a K&N intake & Flowmaster axel back exhaust; had it in for an idle issue ... fixed under warranty, no questions asked.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

You that are dropping GM as a vendor can get as bent out of shape as you want. News flash!!!! If you alter a manufacturer's system you can face a voiding of the warranty. The biggest joke here is on the non-direct injected V8 cars, the benefit is minimal at best in regards to a catch can. Good luck with having any better luck with Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, etc. The list goes on. It's their warranty. It's their rules. Play by them or face the consequences. I look forward to my next GM purchase, and all that follow after that.

You can't play buy the rules when the rules are changed to suit the situation. Read the warranty for a 2015 camaro, and then read what GM did to this guy. GM isn't playing by their own rules here. That's why so many that get are pissed. The folks that have blue bowtie glases on will never get it because they can't see past the color. This guy is getting screwed.