04-16-2020, 08:46 AM | #1 |
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Maggie & Heads question
I got a really good deal on a Maggie TVS2300 and a set of texas speed CNC Heads. I’m just curious as to how much a shop should charge to install these parts? Thanks
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04-16-2020, 11:03 AM | #2 |
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It just depends on the shop. Most supercharger installs range from 15-2000. I imagine the heads would be another 500-1000.00 in labor. I think you should do a cam with a fuel lobe before heads. Then you come to a cross roads of doing forged drop-ins while it's apart. The rabbit hole is a deep dark place.
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04-16-2020, 11:27 AM | #3 |
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as king stated the rabbit hole is a scary dark place where alot of things can happen to your wallet.
when adding a S/C onto the LT1 in stock form with canned tune is lacking but does give enough power to some owners. but with any upgrade in power it can get boring. sadly with just a S/C added your prety close to the limits of your stock fuel system so moving up is now going to need a cam with 32% fuel lobe tapping out the stock fuel system completely, you can squek by with a low side aux kit or voltage booster but not really a wise choice. and the list and explanation can go on and on just a reference. the question you should consider is what is your goal? If the stock canned tune is enough power for you and youre 100% sure you dont want more than that then just go with the S/C and call it a day, use the canned tune as they run rich for safety, or get a custom tune from a reputable tuner such as Pray, Jannety, or GPI keep it safe and get more specific tune for you setup. If you want to get more power in the future and progress the build then LT4 Fueling upgrades, Cam, heads, lowside Aux kit, Meth, intakes, Throttle bodies, headers, and etc are going to creep up on you fast. just prepare for it the 6th gen is capable of so much and has been a blast to build! Cheers.
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04-16-2020, 11:29 AM | #4 |
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[QUOTE=KingLT1;10768350]It just depends on the shop. Most supercharger installs range from 15-2000. I imagine the heads would be another 500-1000.00 in labor. I think you should do a cam with a fuel lobe before heads. Then you come to a cross roads of doing forged drop-ins while it's apart. The rabbit hole is a deep dark place.[/QUOTE
Well it’s just the supercharger no intercooler and I got the heads for too good of a deal so I have to get them installed. That’s the thing if I do cam also right now then imma have to do drop ins and then after everything I’m down around 12k haha
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04-17-2020, 09:05 AM | #7 |
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If you're already taking the heads off I'd go with a cam at least. A cam swap will cost you around 1500-2000. To be honest without a cam there isn't a big reason to do the heads. The first thing you should ask yourself is what power level are you trying to reach and start getting some quotes from there. 550-600 is pretty easy but after that your pistons are at risk.
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04-17-2020, 09:21 AM | #8 |
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Call Ted Jannetty, he explained in detail to me what the LT1 needed to be safe and make around 550 hp with a maggie , I was told with supporting fueling mods that was the max the stock LT1 fuel system could do safely, it would also need a JMS system to support the stock fuel system. The tune is also important which he said he can do. Smart guy and great customer service.
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04-19-2020, 07:59 AM | #10 |
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If pursuing a PD blower, I wouldn't spend any money on headwork until you have all fuel supply issues updated (LT4 HPFP, LT4 Injectors, 38% fuel lobe and a low side kit).
You can outrun the LT1 fuel system with that blower by itself, and the factory heads are no real restriction until you are running like 13-15lbs of boost or more.
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