HOW FAST HAVE YOU GONE?

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by Erik@Torq

Yes Sir, very much so!

I have been racing since I was 8 (Go-carts) and have been racing cars both professional and hobby) since I was 16. Gearing also plays into the whole fact of top speed. It takes about 10hp for every 1-2mph increase (also depending on CW value and drag) at these speeds and increases the faster you go. But 500rwhp with the correct gearing will get you to 180+ with enough room.

What is the Cd on the Camaro? And you are right, there are many factors that will determine the top speed a car can achieve, including those you listed above.

I never said that I did not believe a new Camaro could reach 186mph, just that I did not believe the car mentioned as having gone 186mph ever did so supercharged or not. At least not with the stock shortblock, gearing and transmission.

[Erik@Torq]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

What is the Cd on the Camaro? And you are right, there are many factors that will determine the top speed a car can achieve, including those you listed above.

I never said that I did not believe a new Camaro could reach 186mph, just that I did not believe the car mentioned as having gone 186mph ever did so supercharged or not. At least not with the stock shortblock, gearing and transmission.

I posted the following in my previous post, but you may have missed since I edited it after

And depending on which s/c the cars has, it doesn't necessarily mean that the car will have an extreme top speed. Twin screws usually run out of air at higher RPM's which are necessary for high speeds (figuratively speaking), where as my Camaro is a top end car with all power and torque very high in the power band. I have zero chance at 50mph roll race towards a stock GT500 even though my HP advantage, but as soon as I can wind it out the car pulls crazy hard

The Camaro has a VERY low drag coefficient of 0.37, compared to a mustangs 0.46! It has been praised to have a very "slick" body compared to other vehicles.

Btw, love your TT GT500! I almost got a 2010 GT500 before I bought my Camaro but I am waiting for the 2011 with aluminum block instead

[MikeSVX]

Originally Posted by Hopper

What this guy said is true. I've had my Camaro up to about 105, but mostly keep it below 80. I've driven other stock Camaros on a track up to around 145 before lifting and it wasn't the speed that scared me off. Believe me, I wanted to push it further and the engine had more since the electronic limiter was disengaged, but it was starting to become very challenging driving experience and I backed off. I've driven NASCAR stockers well above these speeds and had fun because they were set up for it. I can't imagine anything above 160 being any fun at all in anything close to a stock Camaro.

If you want to go this fast, build a purpose built race or drag car and keep it on the track. If this is your daily or weekend driver, I have one question to ask. Why would you want or need the ability to go this fast?

Strange? I thought the car was very stable at 135mph.

[Erik@Torq]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

What is the Cd on the Camaro? And you are right, there are many factors that will determine the top speed a car can achieve, including those you listed above.

I never said that I did not believe a new Camaro could reach 186mph, just that I did not believe the car mentioned as having gone 186mph ever did so supercharged or not. At least not with the stock shortblock, gearing and transmission.

Originally Posted by MikeSVX

Strange? I thought the car was very stable at 135mph.

It is! It's even very stable at 164mph, and 178mph as posted above

[acowherd]

99.9 mph! A tenth more, and I could have went to jail

[jordan 572]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Unless there's a built motor on that car and its making more power than any other supercharged SS I have ever read about/seen, he did not hit 180+. Too much aerodynamic resistance and not enought hp to achieve those speeds.

a vette has 430 hp and that goes 190. I know the cmaro is less aeryodynamic but and extra 200 hp makes up for that. how fast does your stang go? 220?

[lee]

ive only been 70mph thats the speed limit in tx

[Hopper]

Originally Posted by MikeSVX

Strange? I thought the car was very stable at 135mph.

Yes, VERY stable at 135. I agree with you.

Originally Posted by Erik@Torq

It is! It's even very stable at 164mph, and 178mph as posted above

In perfect conditions, in a straight line, without sustaining that speed, I might agree with you. Throw a stock Camaro into turn on a track at 150+ (even on tracks banked for this kind of speed) and I think you may have a different opinion. A stock Camaro has a LOT of understeer as built by the factory and the front end gets very light.

Anyone can go fast in a straight line with enough room to run off. As stated earlier in this thread, speed costs money as the HP needed to exceed drag goes up exponentially. Tell me how fast do you want to go and I'll tell you how big a check you need to write. Not much skill involved in that. Turns are what separate drivers from guys with big wallets.

[extremepcs]

The roads in Michigan are the worst I have ever driven on. My luck, I'd hit a pothole and it'd be all over. Either that or blow by a state trooper... I wonder if Michigan International Speedway lets unskilled drivers on their track??? LOL

[StlRomAniaN]

147 ;] Turn was coming up...

[Erik@Torq]

Originally Posted by Hopper

Yes, VERY stable at 135. I agree with you.



In perfect conditions, in a straight line, without sustaining that speed, I might agree with you. Throw a stock Camaro into turn on a track at 150+ (even on tracks banked for this kind of speed) and I think you may have a different opinion. A stock Camaro has a LOT of understeer as built by the factory and the front end gets very light.

Anyone can go fast in a straight line with enough room to run off. As stated earlier in this thread, speed costs money as the HP needed to exceed drag goes up exponentially. Tell me how fast do you want to go and I'll tell you how big a check you need to write. Not much skill involved in that. Turns are what separate drivers from guys with big wallets.

I have done exactly that several times and my opinion stands. With 800 miles on the clock I took my Camaro and ran it bone stock at the road course with banking made for 150+ mph. Yes it did understeer but very predictable and stable, and that is why I went with Pfadt Swaybars, went back to the track, then I added springs, and again back to the track. I have tried several suspension set-ups at the road course, drag strip and standing mile events. Next mod is Pfadt Coil-overs and finally some real track wheel and tire set-up.

I know how fast I want to go, both in straight line performance and on the road course and there is a lot more then money that come into fact

I have over 7000 miles on my Camaro in barely 2 months. 4 full days of road course driving, 3 standing mile events with at least 6 full runs each time, 100 passes on the 1/4 (both real and full 1/4 mile simulation on our Dyno) and a couple thousand daily driven miles. I know this car both in and out and am very aware of what it s capable of.

When I want to go really fast I just break out my Z06 with 610whp, now we are talking speed

Originally Posted by Hopper

In perfect conditions, in a straight line, without sustaining that speed, I might agree with you.

The Camaro is pretty similar to the GTO in several aspects, and I sustained speeds over 140mph from Stockholm to Maranello (Sweden to Italy) and the car felt right at home. I get the same feeling with the Camaro, but even better actually! GM did their homework and made an amazing car with this one!

[mtcwby]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Unless there's a built motor on that car and its making more power than any other supercharged SS I have ever read about/seen, he did not hit 180+. Too much aerodynamic resistance and not enought hp to achieve those speeds.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. the aerodynamics are alot better than you think. Don't know if my gfx helps or not, but there was no wind noise, no body shake, no front end squirrelyness, no hood lift when doing this speed. Just felt the same as when doing 120. I was taching right at 6300 rpm in 5th @ 186 mph.
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Here's a pic of my gps for all you doubters and yes a gps, not the DIC, cause a DIC pic can be done on a dyno:

[jcampb57]

I had her up to 95 with no effort at all, but my wife was freaking out,so so I brought her back into legal specs.

[Jarvis59]

143MPH on the straights at Pocono Speedway in 4th gear.
Had to let up going into the curves.